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postern door bypass
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:34 pm
by footpatrol2
So any chance we can take away postern door entry to a rank 0 keep when the door goes down?
It was fun in the beginning because it was a big change and now it just feels like a zerg fest. The choke points make the fights feel epic and make it feel like a actual keep take. Now it feels super zergy. Also certain classes excel at chokepoint holding and this kinda steals there thunder.
Any chance of players hitting the door again also? This allow's for the offensive to have a focus point. Right now there really isn't any focus point and only requires tanks on a ram to break down the door. This allows a defensive force to play postern games and steal away focus from the door hence slowing down the advance of the keep door going down. It makes the defensive force feel like your making a impact.
Re: postern door bypass
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:45 pm
by Daknallbomb
wtf plz NO ...... than we have 5 hour funnel fights again -.-
Re: postern door bypass
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:57 pm
by NoRKaLKiLLa
Door funnels are so absurdly in favor of incredibly defensive and passive gameplay that you have people whose only contribution to the rvr campaign is tapping an AOE heal or damage ability on one spot. It's not dynamic nor interactive to partake in the defense and it's fruitless and frustrating to play against. So you go to the trouble of prepping a zone, capping all the BOs, running the resources and escorting the ram only to run into the people playing the other side who haven't the intelligence or coordination to anything except gather in one spot and body block. No. Not only no but **** no, get out of here with that ****. The only problem with the current system is that there's zero incentive to attack a keep that's not either at rank 0 or is minutes away from reaching rank zero. If capturing a keep with a star gave a multiple odd rewards in accordance with the number of stars at has, ie. 1 star keep gives 4 purple bags and 1.25x renown, a 2 star keep gives 6 purple bags and 1.5x etc etc etc then you might see people willing to hit a stone wall in coordinated gameplay at the off chance of actually breaking a funnel. In the mean time the meta is wait for your lazy, incapable or simply and more often the case, undermanned faction to bleed rank until your back door is plowable and you get bent over and smashed. You've also the option of funneling the second floor and hiding under the skirt of your keep Lord of you want an "epic" standstill that is heavily in favor of the passive and defensive faction.
Re: postern door bypass
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:16 pm
by Pumatouch
NoRKaLKiLLa wrote: You've also the option of funneling the second floor and hiding under the skirt of your keep Lord of you want an "epic" standstill that is heavily in favor of the passive and defensive faction.
Okay I'll bite

The socalled Skirt is a direct tactical response to what I've dubbed "Dancefloor Below" coupled with
Lord going through walls. You know what it means.
Truth.
Re: postern door bypass
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:13 pm
by NoRKaLKiLLa
Don't get me wrong, I understand that it's a valid and effective last ditch effort to defend a keep, but it's not fun, to me, to mindlessly rely on sheer numbers, a choke point and a NPC to win any kind of engagement.
Re: postern door bypass
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:14 pm
by Daknallbomb
oh ure so right norkal i remind 4 hours funnel farm at some fights ist just well no fun ;D
Re: postern door bypass
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:43 pm
by Shamrockinc
Pumatouch wrote:NoRKaLKiLLa wrote: You've also the option of funneling the second floor and hiding under the skirt of your keep Lord of you want an "epic" standstill that is heavily in favor of the passive and defensive faction.
Okay I'll bite

The socalled Skirt is a direct tactical response to what I've dubbed "Dancefloor Below" coupled with
Lord going through walls. You know what it means.
Truth.
It's simple really, but alot of work for the devs. Just need to make the walls, SOLID again... Don't know how many times, i've been defending or attacking a keep, only to watch the damn Lord, rubberband through the walls. Let alone how many mobs actually continue shooting you through those same damn walls...
Just my 2 Pennies...

Re: postern door bypass
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:19 pm
by Daknallbomb
there is the pathing thingy again ;D
Re: postern door bypass
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:15 am
by Haojin
We tried it before, on live and here, it's a total mess.
No.
Re: postern door bypass
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:27 am
by Natherul
Will probably not close the postern until something major changes.
Locking thread.