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Ram frontal damage

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:12 am
by NoRKaLKiLLa
Players should not be able to jump off the wall and stand INSIDE an enemy ram, back to wall, and survive getting squished between the ram and the door. Currently players are throwing tanks inside the enemy ram and being AOE healed through the wall, with no intention of fighting other players or progressing the zone beyond dying as many times as it takes to stop the other team from playing the game. Siege weapons and melee attacks should and do massive damage to rams as is, moreso when they're not yet deployed to the door, which is great, however focusing a warband to keep a single tank alive so it can chip down a ram is not very fun gameplay. If the ram should do some oil-like damage to anyone standing between it and the door when it swings. If it had a 4k damage AOE cone damage to the front of it, it would prevent this PVRam which has plagued the lakes for months.

Re: Ram frontal damage

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:18 am
by Toldavf
I made a thread with a suggestion to prevent this. Basically atm players can hop off the wall and dps the ram respawn and do it again.

Re: Ram frontal damage

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:33 am
by anarchypark
Make deployed ram to collision object
it will stop them getting inside the ram
ofc dev would've done it if it's possible
I suggest to wait client control

Re: Ram frontal damage

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:48 am
by Wuhh
anarchypark wrote:Make deployed ram to collision object
it will stop them getting inside the ram
ofc dev would've done it if it's possible
I suggest to wait client control
If any siege equipment was made with collision it would be misused as a barricade

Re: Ram frontal damage

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:19 pm
by anarchypark
ram take position itself when it's deployed at door
collision at this condition only?
release collision when door down?
it's not easy to code I think

Re: Ram frontal damage

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:52 pm
by Sejanus
I remember this being a thing on live I think?

I vaguely remember being killed for 10k~ damage hits from a ram if you stood in just the right spot in front of the ram.

Re: Ram frontal damage

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:09 pm
by Glorian
Sejanus wrote:I remember this being a thing on live I think?

I vaguely remember being killed for 10k~ damage hits from a ram if you stood in just the right spot in front of the ram.
Like if you stand in front of a treetrunk which rammed by 4 guys through your body. :)

Re: Ram frontal damage

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:17 pm
by Wuhh
I remember on Live if we put enough damage on ram it would rotate and change position.

Re: Ram frontal damage

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:46 pm
by Aurandilaz
Eh, killing rams is still somewhat rare event. Don't see much of a problem, usually the attackers are not that braindead that just allow someone to kill their ram. With enough focus, even tanks getting heals will go down.

Yet possible solutions; allow things like Shaman Green Cleaning HoT to heal ram (I think it worked like that on live at some point), and IIRC various healers already have ways of healing ram?

inb4 Heroic Defender Buff returns...