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[IB] Combined reduction damage (Tactic+renown)

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:16 am
by hellcore
Hi everyone,

I am wondering if the reduction damage from Shield Mastery tactic, Seasoned Veteran tactic and Hardy Concession renown ability combine for an amount of 35% reduction damage when Shield mastery tactic procs (if not, it would be 20%).

As a pure defensive Ironbreaker, is it the way to go? To spend renown points in block % and Hardy Concession (damage reduction ?

Thank you.

Regards,

Re: Combined reduction damage (Tactic+renown)

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:17 am
by roadkillrobin
Hardy Concessions doesn't work.
But all other dmg modifiers should stack.

Re: Combined reduction damage (Tactic+renown)

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:20 am
by hellcore
roadkillrobin wrote:Hardy Concessions doesn't work.
But all other dmg modifiers should stack.
oh, I didnt know that. Is there any info about if devs will fix it ?

Thanks,

Re: [IB] Combined reduction damage (Tactic+renown)

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:03 pm
by Luth
It's not working intendedly as well as "trivial blows".

Re: [IB] Combined reduction damage (Tactic+renown)

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:30 pm
by Woatan
Hellcore,

Those tactics stack multiplicatively, not additively. Bear that in mind also.

It's debatable wheter the return is too diminshing or not. To me it doesn't justify hogging up 2 tactic slots.

Food for thought.

Re: [IB] Combined reduction damage (Tactic+renown)

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 11:28 pm
by Eathisword
hellcore wrote:Hi everyone,

I am wondering if the reduction damage from Shield Mastery tactic, Seasoned Veteran tactic and Hardy Concession renown ability combine for an amount of 35% reduction damage when Shield mastery tactic procs (if not, it would be 20%).

As a pure defensive Ironbreaker, is it the way to go? To spend renown points in block % and Hardy Concession (damage reduction ?

Thank you.

Regards,
Nah basically, mitigating 5%, then 15% is not mitigating 20%. If you get 100 damage and mitigate 5%, there is 95 left. Then you mitigate 15% of that, which is 14,2. Not much difference, but still.

Anyway, as SnB, I think you gain much more by going tri-spec than high in Stone, as getting Earthshatter, the parry buff and the crit buff is really a must have. Something like this is good for level 40 :
waronlinebuilder.org - Ironbreaker build

You can mess around for the 4th tactic, using armor, Seen it all before, Shield of reprisal, etc.

Re: [IB] Combined reduction damage (Tactic+renown)

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:59 pm
by SilentMorbus
Luth wrote: Thu May 04, 2017 9:03 pm It's not working intendedly as well as "trivial blows".
may I ask why?

Re: [IB] Combined reduction damage (Tactic+renown)

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:55 pm
by dansari
Eathisword wrote: Fri May 05, 2017 11:28 pm
You can mess around for the 4th tactic, using armor, Seen it all before, Shield of reprisal, etc.
Wouldn't Furious Reprisal be meh if your target is knocked down for 3 of the 5 seconds, or do you use it frequently in small scale even if the target is immune?

Thoughts on Punishing Knock?

Re: [IB] Combined reduction damage (Tactic+renown)

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:38 pm
by Fey
I'm wondering about furious reprisal as well. Best for DoK who happens to have KD immunity?

Re: [IB] Combined reduction damage (Tactic+renown)

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:44 pm
by dansari
Fey wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:38 pm I'm wondering about furious reprisal as well. Best for DoK who happens to have KD immunity?
Punishing Knock definitely for doks since they can't cleanse it, but you also don't see a ton of doks melee.