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LF AM universal build advice

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:04 pm
by Telperien
Hi, i`m looking for advice from more experienced AMs for decent universal build I can run for 6 man healing lifetap AM and for solo sc/rvr gank (dps).
My idea is to swap tactics with gear setup, no respec and no RA respec.

For healing atm I run

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=am; ... 48:3449:0:
(no marsh of mistress yet, still missing 3 renown ranks for 27 points)

My RA is full dodge/disrupt, 2x - to be crit, +2 heal crit

Re: LF AM universal build advice

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:19 pm
by Arbich
Healing:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=am; ... 448:3449:0:

Damage:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=am; ... 448:3449:0:

No renown ability respecc means you will either lack magic-crit or heal-crit.
For solo ganking you may not need the heal debuff and can put this point elsewhere (maybe silence against sorcs...).

Re: LF AM universal build advice

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 4:04 pm
by Arconnn
I don't see why, can respec on npcs and since we have .ab ex respec is free

Healing:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=am; ... 8:;0:0:0:0:
Heal crit / Futile Strikes / Cleansing Wind, Spare points into Initiative. Adjust based on how tanky you want to be
Dps:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=am; ... 5:;0:0:0:0:
Magic Crit / Futile Strikes / Cleansing Wind, Spare points into Initiative. Adjust based on how tanky you want to be

Re: LF AM universal build advice

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 5:00 pm
by Telperien
My point is to swap gear with closet golbin on the fly, between sc and rvr etc. So respecing or changing RA is not an option. I hate MI, so ill pass that.

Re: LF AM universal build advice

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 5:06 pm
by Telperien
Arbich wrote:Healing:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=am; ... 448:3449:0:

Damage:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=am; ... 448:3449:0:

No renown ability respecc means you will either lack magic-crit or heal-crit.
For solo ganking you may not need the heal debuff and can put this point elsewhere (maybe silence against sorcs...).
I dont spend much into heal crit of RA so thats not a problem. I also wont be trying to outshine true dps classes, just for assist and a bit of fun in case of 6 healers in sc.
I like ur spec. Still got points in Vaul tree for lifetaps and enough utility in Asuryan to make a difference. Wasnt sure about tactics tho.
Are you sure Increased Conductivity and Discerning Offense stack?

Re: LF AM universal build advice

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 5:36 pm
by Dabbart
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=am; ... 8:;0:0:0:0:

That's my AM. With your AP drain, you don't need restorative burst. If you are always getting disrupted, then you need to practice target control a bit better. The insta rezz is super helpful as well. You can give yourself immunities, and once you get one, it's insta rezz' for free. Great for Kiting, just make sure your 2nd healer is aware you are on rezz duty, and profit.

Magical Infusion stacks with RP buff, and since MotM is pretty much mandatory, you might as well get it imo. It can be exceptionally helpful(MI that is).

Edit: Gear wise, full anni with Wounds talis to just under 7k. Tried mixing armor/toughness and wasn't that effective. With such high healing burst, you just need to focus on surviving the KD and morale bombs.

Oh, and always remember that you have TWO detaunts. Use them wisely. If you detaunt someone in melee with you, swap targets so your AA doesn't break the Detaunt... Oh, and don't lifetap your detaunt target...

Re: LF AM universal build advice

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 5:41 pm
by arnagob
I main Shaman, so i'm not sure about good AM spec but for RR points, just go full FS (x4) otherwise gonna turn in a RIP AM again! :mrgreen:

Re: LF AM universal build advice

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 6:18 pm
by Arconnn
Dabbart wrote:http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=am; ... 8:;0:0:0:0:

That's my AM. With your AP drain, you don't need restorative burst. If you are always getting disrupted, then you need to practice target control a bit better. The insta rezz is super helpful as well. You can give yourself immunities, and once you get one, it's insta rezz' for free. Great for Kiting, just make sure your 2nd healer is aware you are on rezz duty, and profit.

Magical Infusion stacks with RP buff, and since MotM is pretty much mandatory, you might as well get it imo. It can be exceptionally helpful(MI that is).

Edit: Gear wise, full anni with Wounds talis to just under 7k. Tried mixing armor/toughness and wasn't that effective. With such high healing burst, you just need to focus on surviving the KD and morale bombs.

Oh, and always remember that you have TWO detaunts. Use them wisely. If you detaunt someone in melee with you, swap targets so your AA doesn't break the Detaunt... Oh, and don't lifetap your detaunt target...
your point about ap drain
in a 6v6 situation (or any situation that involves fighting a zealot) the MDPS will have infinite AP due to how the Ritual works, Ap draining a MDPS drains next to zero, sure you get AP back but your AP drain is much more useful buried on a Healer, though you can get disrupted or cant always get range on their healer.
If you're going to drop Restorative still then you'd be better of with Golden Aura, since your healing going down close to 0 when you get staggered. and an RP will find it extremely difficult to keep a heal target alive through a Morale burst.

Re: LF AM universal build advice

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 6:21 pm
by Arconnn
Telperien wrote:
Arbich wrote:Healing:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=am; ... 448:3449:0:

Damage:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=am; ... 448:3449:0:

No renown ability respecc means you will either lack magic-crit or heal-crit.
For solo ganking you may not need the heal debuff and can put this point elsewhere (maybe silence against sorcs...).
I dont spend much into heal crit of RA so thats not a problem. I also wont be trying to outshine true dps classes, just for assist and a bit of fun in case of 6 healers in sc.
I like ur spec. Still got points in Vaul tree for lifetaps and enough utility in Asuryan to make a difference. Wasnt sure about tactics tho.
Are you sure Increased Conductivity and Discerning Offense stack?
They Stack, and going up Vaul tree doesn't affect the healing output of Balance Essence

Re: LF AM universal build advice

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 6:36 pm
by Telperien
Enough points to get EoV and helps absorb, not mention to tough/offensive stat debuffs.
Great news about tactics tho.
@ the ap drain and tactic for support ap management - so many times I starved on ap even using Resto Burst so I prefare to keep it. No ap in crucial situation is death for whole group.
Still 30s buff MI for someone that may not even need it its a waste of point imo.
Thanks guys for all input, I see the right direction.