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[BW] Coockie cutter spec and RA's?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:02 pm
by Dwanex
Hey,

I'm going to twink me a BW but i have no idea how the normal Cookie Cutter spec looks like for sc's and maybe some zerging.

And what about RA's? Any special things I need to get?

Ty :)

Re: [BW] Coockie cutter spec and RA's?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 3:08 pm
by Arbich
My specc:

RoR.builders - Bright Wizard

With merc-set I have one skillpoint extra and also grabbed the heal-debuff.
If I don“t suffer from dementia there is an important difference on RoR-server in comparison to AoR-Servers: The defence (ressistances, toughness) against boiling blood (and all other dots) is calculated when you apply boiling blood, not when the damage actually hit. I consider this a buff for the dot-specc.

But with the overpowered disrupt-stats on this server in comparison to AoR-Server I think most BW specc the left tree for burn through. For example:

RoR.builders - Bright Wizard

RA: With BW mechanic the more crit the better. quick escape is also nice.

Re: [BW] Coockie cutter spec and RA's?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:46 pm
by Cimba
Depends a bit on the amount of support you have. With a decent group at your back I would probably run
RoR.builders - Bright Wizard

IMO it offers the best single target damage on BW with FBB being a faster channel then WH. Depending on your opposition/personal preference you might want to switch Flashfire for Burn Through.
However if you cant afford to get within 80ft of your target because your grp sucks you should probably go for a Stop, Drop & Roll build.

Renown is pretty much just Crit. After RR45 you can decide if you want to go full glass canon or if you want to invest into survivability.

Re: [BW] Coockie cutter spec and RA's?

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:40 pm
by Arbich
Ignition instead of burn through? I am suprised. You tested both?

Re: [BW] Coockie cutter spec and RA's?

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:28 pm
by LordZer0
Just wanted to add my two cents. The disrupts on this server are completely out of control. Anything that can boost your crit chance is the best way to go. Kiting is nearly impossible here against players that have a clue and specializing for survivability on this class ruins your ability to be what a BW is supposed to be. Hit and run is the best tactic. Arbich's second build seems to work well enough.

Re: [BW] Coockie cutter spec and RA's?

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:51 pm
by Cimba
Arbich wrote:Ignition instead of burn through? I am suprised. You tested both?
I tested both for a while. Flash Fire + Burn Through is pretty fun and 'rewarding'. You can finally kill that WE with their elixir up. Or that stupid tank with hold the line. But you also invested a lot of resources just to deal with disrupt.

If you use e.g. ignition, fuel to the fire, crown of fire you would have significant more damage on all targets that don't run stupid amounts of disrupt.
The question is then: Can you ignore disrupt stacking targets? I believe you can for you're average/above average group. For 6on6 this might look a bit different. But then again you probably don't want to run BW in 6on6 anyway.

Re: [BW] Coockie cutter spec and RA's?

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:54 am
by Edennae
Hello,
I have a question for the BW.
With 100 Combustions, do you have like the live server, a critical effective bonus or not ?

Thank you for your answer

Re: [BW] Coockie cutter spec and RA's?

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:29 pm
by Reesh
Cimba wrote:
Arbich wrote:Ignition instead of burn through? I am suprised. You tested both?
I tested both for a while. Flash Fire + Burn Through is pretty fun and 'rewarding'. You can finally kill that WE with their elixir up. Or that stupid tank with hold the line. But you also invested a lot of resources just to deal with disrupt.

If you use e.g. ignition, fuel to the fire, crown of fire you would have significant more damage on all targets that don't run stupid amounts of disrupt.
The question is then: Can you ignore disrupt stacking targets? I believe you can for you're average/above average group. For 6on6 this might look a bit different. But then again you probably don't want to run BW in 6on6 anyway.
From my testing lately, a lot more classes are stacking deft defender... Especially those, that even shouldn't do it.
Overall running without burn through on the current server and stat state is huge mistake, and works only vs mindless pugs.
Edennae wrote:Hello,
I have a question for the BW.
With 100 Combustions, do you have like the live server, a critical effective bonus or not ?

Thank you for your answer
Yes it is, that's the sole purpose of this class.

Re: [BW] Coockie cutter spec and RA's?

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:18 pm
by Cimba
Reesh wrote:From my testing lately, a lot more classes are stacking deft defender... Especially those, that even shouldn't do it.
Overall running without burn through on the current server and stat state is huge mistake, and works only vs mindless pugs.
I seriously doubt that the better groups go for a significant amount of disrupt stacking outside of rvr. It's not needed to shut down the BW so why bother? Take Futile Strikes instead and you have a significant benefit against BW and all other classes.
With Conq+Genesis you can also get some decent disrupt strike through which makes deft defender an even less attractive option at BIS level.

Just my 2 cents.