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(SW) Skirmisher rotation and spec?

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:30 pm
by Elftwin95
Hello all fellow Order players!
I have been speced as a full Scout with fester and Fell the Weak among other skills. But I also like skirmish and would like to ask my fellow realm-mates for help in finding a good rotation for a skirmish spec, because I can't seem to make one myself. I am also in a bit of a bind on what to tactics to use for best effect.

Thank you
Kind regards

-Felen :)

Re: (SW) Skirmisher rotation and spec

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:16 pm
by dansari
Been thinking about gathering info on the cookie cutter specs available to all the classes.. maybe we can throw it on the wiki or something.

So, it depends on your playstyle. I've said it before, but I consider Fester a gimmick spec. Don't get me wrong, it works great in pug scs, but most of the time you're not going to be able to sit still for 3s when weighing risk/reward. Think BW with less damage output and if you get avoided a lot of your potency is gone. That, to me, is not how SW should be played (I played it for most of rr50 iirc).

But, I'm also rr60 which enables me to get FtW, flank shot, heal debuff, and Powerful Draw. I think you can do this build at 50 if you drop Flanking Shot, but a staple SW build should always include heal debuff and PD. If you're lower than that (<rr50), you might look at getting Fester just because there's not much use in assault atm.

Here is my current build:
RoR.builders - Shadow Warrior

Rotation: dot, heal debuff. I don't start a rotation until heal debuff is on the target (exceptions to this would be if you're chasing or being chased and a slow or *destro trigger warning* rkd is better used first). From there, it's super linear: use rkd, VoN, AP regen, etc as needed. Keep spamming SFA on your target, and pretty much your main job is to make sure your target stays heal debuffed. If you're running in a group, you should be running with a WL, SL, BW, etc.. something that has burst potential so you can keep dealing consistent damage. Obviously you then use Flanking Shot if your target is running from you. It works best around <=30%, or FtW, which deals double damage at <= 20% hp.

Switch to assault if you get pulled or rooted. Whirling Pin towards your team. If WP gets avoided, detaunt an mdps, disarm another, and pray. I run CW3 for those ohshi moments.

Tactics: Masterful Aim, staple. Powerful Draw, staple, Leading shots in group (you can go Discerning Offense outside of group) because it's damn good: Increase the crits on your whole party (healing, melee, ranged), and Instinctive Aim I consider another staple but only because I trust my group and myself with backup and positioning. The toughness you lose hurts, but the WS and BS you gain is gigantic. This enables you to hit soft cap with BS easily (all my talis are in WS).

For renown abilities, I'm very defensive. Full dodge/disrupt tree, CW3, then currently I pick up random ranged crit or reduction to be crit. If you're leveling a SW, I would get CW2 at the least. That + the M1 can save you in a lot of situations.

Re: (SW) Skirmisher rotation and spec

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:18 pm
by dansari
One thing I meant to mention, is that recently I've been running in alliance warbands and found that this build is kinda useless for larger fights. I'm going to look at a skirmish/assault spec for warbands and try out Pierce Defenses and No Respite. No clue how it will work but I think it would be better than stacking scout tree since you want more mobility and less dependency on single target damage.

Re: (SW) Skirmisher rotation and spec

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:46 pm
by Elftwin95
Thank you so much Dansari, as a fellow Shadow Warrior who I see as one of the best, along with Petitbras, Zeromance,Ciryaher and others it is an honor to have you giving me this tips :) Many thanks!

Re: (SW) Skirmisher rotation and spec

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:55 pm
by dansari
I'm just a scrub but thanks bud! Let me know how it works out for you.

Re: (SW) Skirmisher rotation and spec

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:56 pm
by Elftwin95
Will do! Also, I am Rank 40 and RR 54 currently

Re: (SW) Skirmisher rotation and spec

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:06 pm
by Stinkyweed
Edit; DoT - Jump - HealDebuff for best burst in Skirmish.

Re: (SW) Skirmisher rotation and spec

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:22 pm
by dansari
Yeah dropping two dots and a jump normally takes SHs to like half health.

Re: (SW) Skirmisher rotation and spec

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:23 pm
by Elftwin95
Really, never have heard that one before.

Re: (SW) Skirmisher rotation and spec

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:24 pm
by dansari
Yeah Teefz and leaky are like the only two who live through the infamous double dot + jump combo.