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Parties

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:24 am
by MazeR1337
When parties are fixed do you plan on having the perfect party bonus also? I would really like to see that into place when the parties are fixed because it made people group up and grind together because u got more exp, so for instance, if i group up in a full party with my guildies we get that PP bonus for guild exp?

Re: Partys

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:05 pm
by Tesq
never hear there was a party exp/renow bonus, always tough there was only split exp etc

Re: Partys

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:55 pm
by Telen
No bonus in war. You shared xp/rp. So you were better off healing oop which is why most dropped group in scs when leveling.

Re: Partys

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:18 pm
by amputationsaw
Solo healers are damaging the gameplay for the other classes because they don't profit from the healers buffs and abilities. I also rejected this kinda behavior in and out of the SCs. The more you support your group the more you could succeed.

Re: Partys

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:23 pm
by Telen
amputationsaw wrote:Solo healers are damaging the gameplay for the other classes because they don't profit from the healers buffs and abilities. I also rejected this kinda behavior in and out of the SCs. The more you support your group the more you could succeed.
I'd always drop group in the lower tiers. Tanks never swapping guard. Dps always overextending. Neither ever helping with peels.
Screw em. I'd still top healing but I was playing for myself just as they were.

Re: Partys

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:50 pm
by amputationsaw
Telen wrote:
amputationsaw wrote:Solo healers are damaging the gameplay for the other classes because they don't profit from the healers buffs and abilities. I also rejected this kinda behavior in and out of the SCs. The more you support your group the more you could succeed.
I'd always drop group in the lower tiers. Tanks never swapping guard. Dps always overextending. Neither ever helping with peels.
Screw em. I'd still top healing but I was playing for myself just as they were.
And that's a big problem i think. Many people just want to solo because its more comfortable? I was always told that WAR is a warband based game and I always tried to find a party. Yes, many tanks just didn't used guard the way they should and many damagedealers just did not now how intense it could be to heal every player at once. Ignorants were always there which dissapoints me.

Oh and, what you mean with peels? Sry sometimes I don't get some english terms :)

Re: Partys

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:58 pm
by nugster
Telen wrote:No bonus in war. You shared xp/rp. So you were better off healing oop which is why most dropped group in scs when leveling.
Some people like to play solo healer. especially in RvR lakes. at the moment its not viable as you will get none of the xp or renown. Is this something that will eventually be added? i understand its alpha and this is probably not on the list of priority's.

iirc, when someone got a killing blow on an enemy they (and their party member's?) would gain a stash of RP's so to speak, once they took damage and you healed them up, you could gain those stashed rp's. This really made the game for me as i could go out and RvR without committing to a group but still gain the benefits. it's not taking anything away from the group as they get the RP's for killing the target and i get mine from healing.

Re: Partys

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:06 pm
by Telen
amputationsaw wrote: Oh and, what you mean with peels? Sry sometimes I don't get some english terms :)
Getting dps off healers so they can heal instead of being killed, interrupted or having to heal themselves

Re: Partys

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:17 pm
by Penril
Telen wrote:
amputationsaw wrote: Oh and, what you mean with peels? Sry sometimes I don't get some english terms :)
Getting dps off healers so they can heal instead of being killed, interrupted or having to heal themselves
Have you ever considered maybe they didnt help you because you were OOG?

I remember i was in an SC once and this zealot was OOG... a WH and an IB jumped him (i was on my BO) and i stood next to him just doing /cheer and /clap at the Order players (i didn't care about renown at that point in the game). They killed the zealot and then left without attacking me.

If he had been in my group, i would have immediately guarded him, and we could have easily killed them.

You might be doing all the healing, but your group is doing all the killing. If they decide they don't want to kill enemies/help you, you gain 0 renown.

Re: Partys

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:26 pm
by Telen
Penril wrote:Have you ever considered maybe they didnt help you because you were OOG?
They didn't anyway. The majority of war players think along the lines of kill their healer first and hope ours looks after himself. Then complain if he died.