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Warrior priest: item set bonus RUIN/BL

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:24 am
by nebelwerfer
Hello forum,

I make this thread to discuss the set bonus and item stats for warrior priests. As you may know, mix matching some pieces of this and some of that are bis for many dps classes due to the extremely strong set bonuses when combined. Mercenary and beastlord comes to mind as two giant stat buffers for mainly dps characters.

The stats and set-bonus for warriorpriest gear is sadly quite the opposite, because instead of melee stats+melee stat it quite often has meleestat and willpower. This is a big problem because if you are meleeheal you usually base your build around hitting hard and thus getting decent heals, the willpower on the set is not useful because not only doesn't melee heals scale from it, there are also two tactics you can run which increase your damage by 25%/increase crit and parry by 10% but combined they reduce willpower scaled healing by 40%.

Apart from this, the set bonuses are generally very good, weaponskill, reduce change to be parried, armor and chance on being hit to group heal comes to mind. But the often poor stats on the gear is what makes the WP sets subpar to other classes in terms of accumulating raw stats.

The only endgame sets available that have a 2 piece set bonus with strength are merc and dominator. Ruin has a willpower bonus before the str bonus and generally poor stats for damage making it nowhere near bis. (2:willpower 3: str 4: 1 point in wrath(!) 5: toughness). This illustrates the issue with WP gear quite well imo. Even in the wrath gear you have willpower!

My suggestion is to change the willpower on beastlord items to either STR or INI, because both these stats will benefit the warriorpriest and will result in more viable choice in gear. Furthermore I'd change the ruin set bonus for toughness at the 2 set bonus and willpower at the 5 set bonus, since it is a melee tree set afterall. And maybe change the willpower there to something more melee oriented?

To sum things up I argue that the beastlord/ruin gear stats and set bonus as it currently is is not useful for any of the tree's, and changing it would be a small revolution for the melee WarrPriest.

Hope to hear your thoughts guys, thx for reading

Re: Warrior priest: item set bonus RUIN/BL

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:55 am
by shaggyboomboom
you can get annihilator/merc in less than 1 week, so ruin is not that bad. BL is just trash

Re: Warrior priest: item set bonus RUIN/BL

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:01 pm
by nebelwerfer
shaggyboomboom wrote:you can get annihilator/merc in less than 1 week, so ruin is not that bad. BL is just trash
I don't understand ur argument

Re: Warrior priest: item set bonus RUIN/BL

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:05 pm
by nailinthehead
Honestly just wanted to start a thread like this. There are only two gear sets useful for DPS based WPs - merc and domi and their stats are not really impressive (although bonuses are good). It's somewhat underwhelming, that dps tank can have as much str as WP, more WS and still keep his defences and wounds high, while WP to elevate his STR to mediocre 800 points has to drop his WS, wounds and defences to pitiful level, just because melee gear does not provide those stats. Limited accessory choice doesn't help. That's why I fully agree to modify those two sets. Especially BL as Onslaught is going to be fully cast-healing oriented.

Re: Warrior priest: item set bonus RUIN/BL

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:09 pm
by Leecifer
Totally agree with changing BL stats, and make RUIN either STR or WP but not both. The stats and bonuses on the BL set don't make alot of sense with any build.

Re: Warrior priest: item set bonus RUIN/BL

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:52 am
by nebelwerfer
Bump. Glad to see many agree!

If a dev could share their thoughts on the matter it would be very appreciated!

Re: Warrior priest: item set bonus RUIN/BL

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:16 pm
by wargrimnir
Sure.

No.

You don't get everything that makes for perfectly optimized specs. Fill in the blanks with talismans, or wait until the next 20 sets come out.