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Bignusty
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Pug sc rework

Post#1 » Thu May 17, 2018 8:12 pm

Evening all !!


So as my title tonight on Ekrund gate sc pug some 3 man party same guild playing the PUG scenario. If we have a sc pug its not for playing against those semi premade party bypassing this system.I have already send private message on a GM In game whit a link whit score to show people playing on 3 man.

Please make it possible to dont join sc pug when we are in same party better balanced better fun for everybody.

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Re: Pug sc rework

Post#2 » Thu May 17, 2018 8:17 pm

you cant join pug scen when in groups of more then 2 players. However if they sign at roughly the same time there is always the chance that the system will put them into the same scenario as well, but if it happens that a GM finds evidence that its happening systematically then action may be taken against those players.
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Bignusty
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Re: Pug sc rework

Post#3 » Thu May 17, 2018 8:29 pm

I cant say the guild cause of the rules on the forum but 3 times on ekrund gate tonight same double 3 man so 1 not in party but from same guild played on each and its always same guild every night. Just for notify.

Thx Natherul

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Re: Pug sc rework

Post#4 » Thu May 17, 2018 8:33 pm

Natherul wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 8:17 pm
you cant join pug scen when in groups of more then 2 players. However if they sign at roughly the same time there is always the chance that the system will put them into the same scenario as well, but if it happens that a GM finds evidence that its happening systematically then action may be taken against those players.
There is a huge angryness on order about pug scs because for most part destro tend to dominate . With often claims of people than destro field premades.

When u look at the character composition u notice Destro mostly fields huge mele trains backed with healers on other hand order keep poping on pug sc with 1 or 2 tanks almost no mdps but a load of bws engis wich get steam rolled .

Think for most part people on order fail to understand even as pug is easier to assist as mele than rdps . then minor details like for some reason WEs always are on frontline helping with dps while for most part order WHs play the game to go long way to backdoor on ekrund to try to solo kill people ... by the time they get there , destru allready melted frontline and have midle .

Then the outcry is premade on pug sc.

I realy wish gms took action agaisnt the people feedin fake news on in game channels , just to create drama and spread falsehoods wich are explain on mentality of one of the sides playing the sc, i ask order players quite often why u crying on sc because u losing if u are speced for aoe as bw or why u are playing magnet engi spreading cc like hell for no real purpose . the answers are not nice and is easier to blame Destru, the lack of tanks and a long etc.

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Re: Pug sc rework

Post#5 » Thu May 17, 2018 8:43 pm

Arteker616 wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 8:33 pm
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Natherul wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 8:17 pm
you cant join pug scen when in groups of more then 2 players. However if they sign at roughly the same time there is always the chance that the system will put them into the same scenario as well, but if it happens that a GM finds evidence that its happening systematically then action may be taken against those players.
There is a huge angryness on order about pug scs because for most part destro tend to dominate . With often claims of people than destro field premades.

When u look at the character composition u notice Destro mostly fields huge mele trains backed with healers on other hand order keep poping on pug sc with 1 or 2 tanks almost no mdps but a load of bws engis wich get steam rolled .

Think for most part people on order fail to understand even as pug is easier to assist as mele than rdps . then minor details like for some reason WEs always are on frontline helping with dps while for most part order WHs play the game to go long way to backdoor on ekrund to try to solo kill people ... by the time they get there , destru allready melted frontline and have midle .

Then the outcry is premade on pug sc.

I realy wish gms took action agaisnt the people feedin fake news on in game channels , just to create drama and spread falsehoods wich are explain on mentality of one of the sides playing the sc, i ask order players quite often why u crying on sc because u losing if u are speced for aoe as bw or why u are playing magnet engi spreading cc like hell for no real purpose . the answers are not nice and is easier to blame Destru, the lack of tanks and a long etc.
It's the good ol' pug dreadmill of blaming things, not necessarily in particular order:
- Class balance (in particular mirroring)
- gear acquisition, by extension consumables
- premades
- specific pug scenario
Running out of options?
- xrealm
- timezones
- RvR mechanics
- dev bias
Running out of options?
- lag
- bugs
- realm
Running out of options?
- Reiterate through all the above, randomize at will.

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Re: Pug sc rework

Post#6 » Thu May 17, 2018 8:56 pm

It is bound to happen when the SC pop is so low at all tiers. I would recommend if that is happening to wait a few min afterwards to try to break out of that particular que cycle to see if that helps.
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Bignusty
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Re: Pug sc rework

Post#7 » Thu May 17, 2018 9:22 pm

I dont cry at all ! I want to notify the pb i play just destro and i can ask the 4 order guild runing on 3 man but i cant here so i taking some screen to a gm IG and for the 3 times tonight its always same name who appear . That all.

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Re: Pug sc rework

Post#8 » Thu May 17, 2018 9:27 pm

3 people online in a guild, no other SC are popping, what do you want them to do? 3 people doesn't equate a premade, btw. You should be able to rally your troops, or if it gets really repetitive - why not make a duo yourself to counter them?

Maybe 2 of them are a duo, and the other is doing his own thing queuing pug sc. Should he be penalised for that? It's a slippery slope imo, but if you feel they are genuinely doing it then you should report (and see if it is deemed exploitative).
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orillah
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Re: Pug sc rework

Post#9 » Thu May 17, 2018 10:04 pm

Pug sc is place to rest man, just pop your favorite music, pick your poison( beer, weed, cakes, girl) and enjoy.
Its a place where you can do just anything you want without any responsibility or blame. Just ignore anyone who thinks otherwise ;) .
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peterthepan3
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Re: Pug sc rework

Post#10 » Thu May 17, 2018 10:09 pm

orillah wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:04 pm
Pug sc is place to rest man, just pop your favorite music, pick your poison( beer, weed, cakes, girl) and enjoy.
Its a place where you can do just anything you want without any responsibility or blame. Just ignore anyone who thinks otherwise ;) .
Just keep that sorta careless hedonism in the pug sc, and everyone's happy! 8-)
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