Return of Reckoning

After watching WL absolutely demolish destro in all the scenarios Ive been in recently it seemed with their ability to bypass the damage taken getting to a target and get the proc up and keep it up was a massive buff. It seems to makes their leaps into backlines far less risky and they can keep it up pouncing out. In a way a tank just couldnt be that mobile with them. Just something to consider.

WLs have always been oped against pugs ever since the changes to Guardian. 1v1- 1v2- 1v3- 1v4. It's the go to class for ganking now, leaving WHs to do...? The whole, "kill the pet first" is a farce, at best.
Close Combat adds some survivability, but it's not game changing. They jump in- kill- jump out- "charge" away from the enemy, then flee. It's not essential.

EVERYBODY knows WL are like that!! We(destro) are saying it since way too far to remember exactly when, its absolutely redic. We all know it except the devs, maybe its gonna change with azarel!!

*cross finger*

Us order cross our fingers they take away Choppa Pull... Crazy a melee dps can bypass everything and pull huge groups of ppl from large radius into a melee line of allys. Honestly ill trade, Mara can have pounce, lions get it taken away. But slayers get pull and choppas get it taken away.

I dont think Slayers would trade ID for Get to da choppa. I'm not even sure they would trade Shatter Limbs.

Gimmicky abilities are only good when they dont matter.

MedV wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:05 am Us order cross our fingers they take away Choppa Pull... Crazy a melee dps can bypass everything and pull huge groups of ppl from large radius into a melee line of allys. Honestly ill trade, Mara can have pounce, lions get it taken away. But slayers get pull and choppas get it taken away.

The engi pull is not really "fun" either!! Getting pull throught everything(bodies, tree, rock, name it...)

davispeed wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 am

MedV wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:05 am Us order cross our fingers they take away Choppa Pull... Crazy a melee dps can bypass everything and pull huge groups of ppl from large radius into a melee line of allys. Honestly ill trade, Mara can have pounce, lions get it taken away. But slayers get pull and choppas get it taken away.

The engi pull is not really "fun" either!! Getting pull throught everything(bodies, tree, rock, name it...)

Magus pull is even better

peterthepan3 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:02 am

davispeed wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 am

MedV wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:05 am Us order cross our fingers they take away Choppa Pull... Crazy a melee dps can bypass everything and pull huge groups of ppl from large radius into a melee line of allys. Honestly ill trade, Mara can have pounce, lions get it taken away. But slayers get pull and choppas get it taken away.

The engi pull is not really "fun" either!! Getting pull throught everything(bodies, tree, rock, name it...)

Magus pull is even better

Dissagree. Order able to stack far more Disrupt then Destro Dodge.

Magnet and rift require preparation otherwise it's just suicide.

Choppa pull in conjunction with easy access to a spamable AOE(BG/Mara), which does not require serious coordination makes destro first line much stronger than order.