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Actually a way to see the exact Crit Chance

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:34 pm
by Aerogath
hi,
as the topic says i`m trying to figure out my exact crit chance. Getstats does give me nothing else as my Charakter window with formula and there is no Spellcritchance.
Addons like Statdoll doesn`t show an exact crit chance either, everything what .getstats and statdoll shows is the +bonus crit chance from item and this brings me exactly nothing, i`ll asked now some players and nobody knows it and is just playing.

Would be really cool if someone could help me because it want to maximize my gear and masterys :=)

Re: Actually a way to see the exact Crit Chance

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:57 pm
by Rydiak
Your "exact crit chance" depends on your target. As such, it is impossible to show you just from a character screen.

Re: Actually a way to see the exact Crit Chance

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:45 pm
by Ramasee
But there are some numbers that can help you.
Initiative + 35 = TRUEINI
0 - 66 = ENEMYCRIT (26 is average for well-geared, grouped player. 9 for a PuG, 61for a sorc)
Reduced chance to be crit from gear + futile strikes = BONUSDEF

Now your chance to be crit is:
((350 / TRUEINI) * 10) + ENEMYCRIT - BONUSDEF

Re: Actually a way to see the exact Crit Chance

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:53 pm
by nat3s
Thanks Ram. So if i have 200 init, nothing in futile strikes and no crit reduction armour and my enemy has 20% crit chance I get:

TRUEINI = (200+35)
ENEMYCRIT = 20%
BONUSDEF = 0

(350/235) * 10 = 14.89
14.89 + 20 = 34.89

?

Effectively you only start to reduce crit chance once your init passes 350, anything below is actually inflating someone's crit chance? Quite an eye-opener.

Re: Actually a way to see the exact Crit Chance

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:22 pm
by Aerogath
Im actually at 1,1k int and i know that enemies are reducing getting critted but i simply want to know how much crit i have to change eventuelly some items.
I want to make my own template for my playstyle.

Re: Actually a way to see the exact Crit Chance

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:03 pm
by Rydiak
You have 1,100 Initiative?

Re: Actually a way to see the exact Crit Chance

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:26 pm
by Ramasee
nat3s wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:53 pm
Spoiler:
Thanks Ram. So if i have 200 init, nothing in futile strikes and no crit reduction armour and my enemy has 20% crit chance I get:

TRUEINI = (200+35)
ENEMYCRIT = 20%
BONUSDEF = 0

(350/235) * 10 = 14.89
14.89 + 20 = 34.89

?
Effectively you only start to reduce crit chance once your init passes 350, anything below is actually inflating someone's crit chance? Quite an eye-opener.
The conclusion here is off. At 315 initiative (+35 makes 350) you have a base 10% chance to be crit. It is impossible to eliminate base chance to be critically hit with initiative alone. Even 1,100 initiative would be a 3.08% chance to be crit before enemy's extra crit chance. This is why flat reduced chance to be crit from gear and futile strikes becomes important.

Re: Actually a way to see the exact Crit Chance

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:30 pm
by nat3s
Yes I'm with you. Cheers for explaining.

Re: Actually a way to see the exact Crit Chance

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:24 pm
by Aerogath
Guys i have 1,1k Intelligence not initiative :P
Is the forumla different on int or could it be that casters have all around ~the same base crit chance and the rest comes only from bonus critchance about gear ?

Re: Actually a way to see the exact Crit Chance

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:40 pm
by Telperien
How much to be crited is quite safe now?