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WL's too weak?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:14 am
by Arslan
I played my WL and it was too weak imo. I had played WL for years in all tiers and I can say atm it is so unplayable, that it is not strange that it is one of the most underplayed classes. I was killed by a WE who did not even have to unstealth on me, and then by a lowbie choppa. When I died they were like 50% HP's so it was a pwnage. I think something is wrong, because on official I would be the one with 50% HP's + vs such opponents. :?

Re: WL's too weak?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:53 am
by Luth
WL has his issues atm, mostly because of the pet is not working somewhat reliable:
1. the pet is very sluggish in it's movement (rubberbanding)
2. petskill usage is random (the addon loyalpet is mostly not working) and not very helpful, e.g. snare/armordebuff is barely used
3. proper usage of "coordinated strike" is random (4 hits instead of just 2) and extra annoying in combination with issue 1.

Despite this, i can kill most other mdps in 1vs1 on my WL (marauders are a problem for obvious reasons).
Arslan wrote:I was killed by a WE who did not even have to unstealth on me
:?: :lol:

Re: WL's too weak?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:11 am
by amputationsaw
dude, you sure know that not all classes are fully fixed so WL is just buggy as hell. give it time, when all classes are fully working the WL will shine brighter than today

Re: WL's too weak?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:40 am
by Optikl
Compared to what I remember in the original game, WL seems to be weaker, but this is due to a number of issues ( some of which are on https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issue ... white+lion , feel free to contribute more ), such as skills not firing in melee (blindside dot, cleave limb snare,morale1 sometimes, and other hits), pet pathing (gets stuck, runs away, spawns too far away, doesn't spawn sometime when calling, rubberbanding, can't chase), pet skills (no loyalpet, pet not using skills on cd, pet stances not working) and other specific issues (pet health too low, coordinated strike not properly hitting most of the times, charge not being applied on pet, etc)
Some issues apply to PvE as well ( armor debuffs not working for npcs, low pet health, melee stuff, etc)

Probably the most important issue to fix would be the pet, since it would help immensely to have him by our side, but nonetheless the class is playable, and it's satisfying to get a nice kill here and there.

I'm having a lot of fun on mine, and will probably stream a bit or make a video or two.

Re: WL's too weak?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:47 am
by Arslan
I guessed so, since in lower tiers WL can kill almost everything. I must be quite rusty in addition to all these bugs bugging my class right now. Luth I am sure that WE was like that when she killed me :P See her in t4 on my loner spec we gunna laugh xD

Re: WL's too weak?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:29 pm
by Luth
Arslan wrote:Luth I am sure that WE was like that when she killed me :P See her in t4 on my loner spec we gunna laugh xD
Maybe it was lag, because WH/WE have to unstealth to do any damage at all (unless there is some bug i don't know, but in that case they would easy kill every class).

Re: WL's too weak?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:35 pm
by Chupachup
Roll a slayer , play it for a week and log in the WL....you wil be so happy with youre toon again..... ;-)

Re: WL's too weak?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:41 pm
by Arslan
Chupachup wrote:Roll a slayer , play it for a week and log in the WL....you wil be so happy with youre toon again..... ;-)
I have played slayer and it was the only toon I did not enjoy to play. Fyi, I have played ALL other classes except RP (character slots were filled). So I really understand you. But atm, WL is not what I knew back then. For now, ofc.

Re: WL's too weak?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:53 pm
by OldPlayer
Chupachup wrote:Roll a slayer , play it for a week and log in the WL....you wil be so happy with youre toon again..... ;-)
I heard Slayers are the Farming Class of The Month (FCTM), just check Altdorf. :lol:

Re: WL's too weak?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:29 pm
by Morf
I would say the problem is more with you, not because i have experience playing a wl on ROR but from fighting against them, your lion pet does more damage then most players, appears to hit multiple times with the same skill and has most annoying factor because of the snare.
I dont deny WL's have problems but the same can be said about every class and creating a thread asking if they are to weak is pointless, we would see a thread about every class being weak...

If you are having problems fighting other melle be that lame guy and just kite while your lion does the damage, its so cheap but effective :)