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AM vs. Shaman DPS/Healer

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:37 pm
by fungame211
What are the actual differences on tactics and skills?

Re: AM vs. Shaman DPS/Healer

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:47 pm
by Telen
AM have better AP management. Shaman have better kiting tactics.
Shaman have better burst and toughness debuff. AM have a little more dot damage.
Shaman have access to their damage debuff through puddle. AM have to choose debuff or their best cc.

AM doesnt have to deal with WLs.

Re: AM vs. Shaman DPS/Healer

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:00 pm
by fungame211
http://www.ror.builders/career/archmage

I checked the RoR builder, AM has tactics that say 10% less likely to be defended against and 15% harder to block/disrupt.

Are these additive?

Also, is AM AoE detaunt "cannot be setback" for 5 seconds still? I notice RoR builder might be outdated that's why I'm asking

Also, does the tactic that says 35% more healing to others, 15% more healing to self still exist for AM?

Re: AM vs. Shaman DPS/Healer

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:34 pm
by Telen
Thats outdated. The 35% healing is only for healing energy. A pretty pointless expensive heal that isnt used much. AM no longer has the 15% strikethrough. If you want to DPS Shaman is far better than AM now. They get the new tactic but with their toughness debuff on top. AM lost theirs.

Re: AM vs. Shaman DPS/Healer

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:41 pm
by fungame211
I see, thank you. Also where would the updated RoR builder be?

Re: AM vs. Shaman DPS/Healer

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:55 pm
by FrzrBrn
It's linked in the top bar of this website, but here you go: https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.com/

Re: AM vs. Shaman DPS/Healer

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:28 pm
by Sulorie
In a duel between both, AM has the advantage over shaman.
Shaman is generally better at dealing damage.
AM has easier enemy classes compared to shaman, who faces WL and can't cleanse Engi dots, while AM can deal with Magus more easily.

Re: AM vs. Shaman DPS/Healer

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:33 pm
by bichka
main difference between "mirrors" - AM can remove shammie's debufs/dots, while poor shammy can't.

so in battle of dps healers AM have more chances to win by cleasnsing shammie's AP drain from herself, while keeping AP drain on shammy.

Re: AM vs. Shaman DPS/Healer

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:57 pm
by mursaat1337
bichka wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:33 pm main difference between "mirrors" - AM can remove shammie's debufs/dots, while poor shammy can't.

so in battle of dps healers AM have more chances to win by cleasnsing shammie's AP drain from herself, while keeping AP drain on shammy.
i find that curious that shaman dots are ailments and not hex's to mirror more of the lore of the class as a goblin shaman. i feel like curse is the worst cleanse option against order. i know runie has the same cleanse option but i feel like all healing mirrors should have same cleanse option lik runie and zeal have same cleanse option and wp/dok am/sham.