Return of Reckoning

since there isnt any form of donations etc how are they able to up keep the servers

Ad revenue from when you turn off ad blockers

As far as I know Yaliskha pays from his own pocket to keep the server running. Due to "legal restriction" the team isn't allowed to make any money with this server or big brother EA/GW might get grumpy.
The only way to support the financing is to turn off your addblocker when visting this forum.

Gangan wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:23 am As far as I know Yaliskha pays from his own pocket to keep the server running. Due to "legal restriction" the team isn't allowed to make any money with this server or big brother EA/GW might get grumpy.

will this ever end some day? i mean: if the problem is the copyright then one they it wile expire, right?

Ysaran wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:28 am

Gangan wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:23 am As far as I know Yaliskha pays from his own pocket to keep the server running. Due to "legal restriction" the team isn't allowed to make any money with this server or big brother EA/GW might get grumpy.

will this ever end some day? i mean: if the problem is the copyright then one they it wile expire, right?

Nope. Since ror has no ties to gw in any way that wont be the case.

saupreusse wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:30 am

Ysaran wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:28 am

Gangan wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:23 am As far as I know Yaliskha pays from his own pocket to keep the server running. Due to "legal restriction" the team isn't allowed to make any money with this server or big brother EA/GW might get grumpy.

will this ever end some day? i mean: if the problem is the copyright then one they it wile expire, right?

Nope. Since ror has no ties to gw in any way that wont be the case.

thus we will never be able to donate?

Ysaran wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:36 am

saupreusse wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:30 am

Ysaran wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:28 am
will this ever end some day? i mean: if the problem is the copyright then one they it wile expire, right?

Nope. Since ror has no ties to gw in any way that wont be the case.

thus we will never be able to donate?

No - never!

Ysaran wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:28 am

Gangan wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:23 am As far as I know Yaliskha pays from his own pocket to keep the server running. Due to "legal restriction" the team isn't allowed to make any money with this server or big brother EA/GW might get grumpy.

will this ever end some day? i mean: if the problem is the copyright then one they it wile expire, right?

I don't know how exactly IP laws work for software in the US and UK, but I know that for other media, IP rights expire on the scope of decades (and there are loopholes companies can work around that), and even if for the game itself it was shorter, GW still owns Warhammer. So that won't happen in this project's lifetime and you won't ever be able to donate - unless for some unlikely reason GW and EA suddenly both decide they want some income from this and make the staff an offer they can't refuse.

Server hardware is funded with ads displayed on the forum. Staff work is paid with your moral support.
Since few month, after all this years, the hardware part it is almost self-financing.

We made the choice to base the funding model on ads for many reasons.
It is random and depends on your good will to use or not an adblocker ofc, but our purpose is not to make any profit with this project (for lot of reasons), we don't need much than whats needed to ensure hardware rental.

Ofc, for transparency reason and ethics that concern me, anyone in RoR team has access to the project's book keeping.

As I wrote some months ago: this server will not die because Games-Workshop or EA takes it down, it will die because one day you look at the population counter and there will be fewer and fewer people online during primetime, and if the number is low enough it won't make any sense anymore to spend thousands of € to keep a server running.

Did Apoc die because Games-Workshop or EA took it down? It died because of one decision from the developers and then everybody left.