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				In Nordenwatch, if you only have Fortress is that enough to win?
				Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:57 pm
				by Orpheus66
				People have been saying this the last couple of days and I have no idea where this started. I was personally in a game where this wasn't enough for a win but can anyone shed some light?
			 
			
					
				Re: In Nordenwatch, if you only have Fortress is that enough to win?
				Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:04 pm
				by R3xz
				Fortress provide 30 points for capture, and 4pts per tick
Others provide 15 points for cap, 2 points per tick.
If you have the lead on points, you can simply hold Fortress and probably still win, unless the enemy somehow win by points from killing (1 kill = 2 pts)
Source (very good guide btw) 
viewtopic.php?t=20415 
			
					
				Re: In Nordenwatch, if you only have Fortress is that enough to win?
				Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:34 pm
				by Vayra
				You need to have a lead already and not get farmed by the other team. If you can manage that you only need to hold fortress to win.
To give an example, last weekend I was in one where the flag bugged and we were unable to retake it, while order could capture it. At some point they managed to take it, and we couldn't take it back. We ended up winning 500-480 after spawncamping them the rest of the game and holding both points remaining points for almost the entire game (they managed to sneak out and neutralize Barracks once or twice). So a team getting absolutely demolished almost won by holding fort. If they were actually on fort and fighting us to a stalemate there they would've won easily.
			 
			
					
				Re: In Nordenwatch, if you only have Fortress is that enough to win?
				Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:41 pm
				by dalen
				Fortress provides 20 for cap and 3 per tick, the other two flags provide 15 for cap & 2 per tick.
			 
			
					
				Re: In Nordenwatch, if you only have Fortress is that enough to win?
				Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:50 pm
				by R3xz
				dalen wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:41 pm
Fortress provides 20 for cap and 3 per tick, the other two flags provide 15 for cap & 2 per tick.
 
So the link I mentioned is out of date? Are there up-to-date info on this kinda stuff anywhere? Would be nice to have for the RoR wiki  

 
			
					
				Re: In Nordenwatch, if you only have Fortress is that enough to win?
				Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:24 pm
				by dalen
				R3xz wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:50 pm
dalen wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:41 pm
Fortress provides 20 for cap and 3 per tick, the other two flags provide 15 for cap & 2 per tick.
 
So the link I mentioned is out of date? Are there up-to-date info on this kinda stuff anywhere? Would be nice to have for the RoR wiki  
 
 
at least regarding Nordenwatch it was out of date. Having it on the wiki would probably be good.
 
			
					
				Re: In Nordenwatch, if you only have Fortress is that enough to win?
				Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:32 pm
				by Orpheus66
				so just holding Fortress isn't enough, as I thought
			 
			
					
				Re: In Nordenwatch, if you only have Fortress is that enough to win?
				Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:16 pm
				by Sulorie
				Orpheus66 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:32 pm
so just holding Fortress isn't enough, as I thought
 
It was enough once in time but got ninja changed I suppose.
 
			
					
				Re: In Nordenwatch, if you only have Fortress is that enough to win?
				Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:48 pm
				by guirssane
				when did they change it?
			 
			
					
				Re: In Nordenwatch, if you only have Fortress is that enough to win?
				Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:57 pm
				by navis
				Thanks Dalen for clarification.  It does seem to behave slightly differently more recently, harder to win just by holding Fortress you have to manage another one as well.