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Appearance item vendors

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:04 pm
by GONDOR
Hey, thanks for taking the time to read this suggestion.

One of the greatest things in ROR is all the possible fashionhammer. There are hundreds of variations on how to change your appearance.

A huge amount of fun is playing fashionhammer - from hunting skins to choosing your super fly new look.

There are also some rad items outside of SC gear, that if you don't know about, you'll never see them or accidentally vendor them. Vendoring a quest reward that had a unique skin, or choosing the wrong influence reward.

There are also items, plausibly usable by multiple classes, but locked to a single one (Slayer 2h Oppressor Axe).

We also know after finishing gear sets, generally we have tokens coming out of our ears. I think one of the challenges with the age of this game is inflation or irrelevance of non-primary/lower tier currencies.

For the most part, appearances are standardised for the level range (e.g. all white shoulders for level 11-19 look the same, green look the same, blue - the same).

I also think, unfortunately, some people don't participate in fashionhammer, because they don't want to do the PVE part to get and hunt skins - farming PQs for hours to see what an appearance item looks like isn't fun for everyone.

I think adding a skin vendor will encourage players who wouldn't normally fashionhammer, explore and engage in this part of ROR.

I would like to suggest the following:


Suggestion:
Appearance vendors utilising RvR / SC tokens as currency, possibly locking non-set tier appearances behind prequisite chapter inf rewards.

What:
All non-set appearances
Vendor includes unique skins, such as epic quest skins or lair appeances (for say, 500 oppressor emblems)

How:
Each non-set appearance item for both weapons and armour (including lair boss items) is available for purchase with appropriate tier PvP tokens (SC or ORvR).

If needed, to prevent circumvention of PvE content, these appearances could be locked behind requiring filled chapter influences, but I think it's preferable/better if it is just raw tokens as you don't want to discourage people from spending their tokens.

e.g.
T1 White = 50 recruit emblems & maximum influence in all three Chapter 1
T1 Green = 100 recruit emblems & maximum influence in all three Chapter 2
T1 Blue = 150 recruit emblems & maximum influence in all three Chapter 3
T1 Purple = 200 recruit emblems & maximum influence in all three Chapter 4
T1 Lair appearance/epic quest = 500 emblems & maximum influence in T1 ORvR


OR:

T4 White = 50 conqueror emblems
T4 Green = 100 conqueror emblems
T4 Blue = 150 conqueror emblems
T4 Purple = 200 conqueror emblems
T4 Lair appearance/epic quest = 500 conqueror emblems

Epic quest reward skins = 500 oppressor emblems

Why:
We have oodles of tokens at the end of things, and these tokens just get ground down into talisman mats or officer pots, or just pile up.

Everyone wants to look cool, and there are lots of great skins in the game.

This could help depreciate currencies, and gives people more to spend tokens on, and ultimately more things to 'work towards'.

Re: Appearance item vendors

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:55 pm
by thefryinallofus
I know it would be challenging, but the ability to preview a piece of gear on your character, or at least see what it actually looks like before equipping it would be fantastic. LOTRO has a 'dressing room' window, that allows you to preview what gear looks like from shift-clicking an item. Being able to see what gear sets look like by previewing the reward, or seeing what Dominator Armor looks like before acquiring it would be really great!

Re: Appearance item vendors

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:30 am
by Grock
I'll support anything for better fashionhammer even if all im wearing is the same old pants for 4 years straight

Personally i want "invisible" pieces, mainly shoulders, gloves and boots. If not for everyone than at least for lightly-armored classes like Slayer, Choppa, robe classes and so on

Re: Appearance item vendors

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:09 am
by admanb
Something like this would be rad. I'm all for more accessible fashionhammer options, but I don't hate the influence idea because something that pushes me into content I wouldn't otherwise bother with isn't the worst.

Re: Appearance item vendors

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:28 am
by NSKaneda
Grock wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:30 am Personally i want "invisible" pieces, mainly shoulders, gloves and boots. If not for everyone than at least for lightly-armored classes like Slayer, Choppa, robe classes and so on
Invisible slayer shoulders and boots are in game as inf rewards, at least they were there a year ago (it's been a long time since I logged order).

As for fashion merchants... I'm not overly fond of the idea. Biggest reason behind my exploring the world, doing quests and farming chapter inf is that they hold unique (or very rare) gear skins - and fashionhammer is all about looking unique, not hundreds of players wearing the same boring outfits like in WoW. That and restricting merchants to oppressor emblems... Kinda narrows the experience. I wouldn't leave the city to travel the world if all I had to do to get unique looks was farming scs.

However using that city win bragging currency to exchange for gear skins (not all of them but for example now-removed shoulders and gloves of other classes or factions that used to be chapter 18-21 inf rewards) might be a little cherry on top of city sieges. We won, we sacked, we look better than you sorta thing. Food for thought :)

Re: Appearance item vendors

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:07 am
by Sinereas
There was a preview feature on the latest version of live, but RoR is build on a previous version and I read in some old thread that the feature was hardcoded so no way to implement it. But I support any fashionhammer initiative.

Re: Appearance item vendors

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:47 am
by Grock
NSKaneda wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:28 am
Grock wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:30 am Personally i want "invisible" pieces, mainly shoulders, gloves and boots. If not for everyone than at least for lightly-armored classes like Slayer, Choppa, robe classes and so on
Invisible slayer shoulders and boots are in game as inf rewards, at least they were there a year ago (it's been a long time since I logged order).
Those are bugged and will be fixed eventually. There are no "official" hidden appearance items.

Re: Appearance item vendors

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:47 pm
by NSKaneda
Grock wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:47 am Those are bugged and will be fixed eventually. There are no "official" hidden appearance items.

They had been bugged on live as well then, because they come from the same quests and chapters as previously. And if live didn't fix them then maybe that makes them... official? ;)