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City Solo Queue as Ranked SC

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 8:28 pm
by Zatoast
Can we have the possibility to queue solo for City and get in an "all-Solo" wb like ranked SC with a 2-2-2 setup per party?

Re: City Solo Queue as Ranked SC

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:17 pm
by Sulorie
Zatoast wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 8:28 pm Can we have the possibility to queue solo for City and get in an "all-Solo" wb like ranked SC with a 2-2-2 setup per party?
Then you never get pops.
It works totally fine to join city solo or as duo already, I see no reason to change it to cater even more towards solo play.

Re: City Solo Queue as Ranked SC

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 1:17 pm
by nat3s
This is something i suggested a while back and would help reduce the numbers on both sides that miss a City.

Re: City Solo Queue as Ranked SC

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 1:17 pm
by nat3s
Sulorie wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:17 pm
Zatoast wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 8:28 pm Can we have the possibility to queue solo for City and get in an "all-Solo" wb like ranked SC with a 2-2-2 setup per party?
Then you never get pops.
It works totally fine to join city solo or as duo already, I see no reason to change it to cater even more towards solo play.

Just to correct post above, queuing solo does not create a new city instance, you can only get added to WB that opened an instance with < 24 players. OP is talking about having solo queuers spawning a city instance.

Here are 2 examples:

1. Currently 40 people may be solo queued and 12 people queued as a WB, the system will spawn 1 instance for the 12 man WB and then feed 12 of the 40 solo queuers into the 12 spaces in the instance after the 12 man WB joined.

2. Same 40 players solo queue and same 12 man WB queues. This time the system creates 2 city instances: 1 with WB + 12 solo queuers and a second with 24 solo queuers.

Example 1 means 28 players queued solo dont get an instance.
Example 2 means just 4 people miss out on an instance.

This would benefit both Order and Destro.

Re: City Solo Queue as Ranked SC

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 1:21 pm
by Sulorie
nat3s wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 1:17 pm
Sulorie wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:17 pm
Zatoast wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 8:28 pm Can we have the possibility to queue solo for City and get in an "all-Solo" wb like ranked SC with a 2-2-2 setup per party?
Then you never get pops.
It works totally fine to join city solo or as duo already, I see no reason to change it to cater even more towards solo play.

Just to correct post above, queuing solo does not create a new city instance, you can only get added to WB that opened an instance with < 24 players. OP is talking about having solo queuers spawning a city instance.

Here are 2 examples if you're not following it, first is what happens now, second is OP's suggestion:

1. Currently 40 people may be solo queued and 12 people queued as a WB, the system will spawn 1 instance for the 12 man WB and then feed 12 of the 40 solo queuers into the 12 spaces in the instance after the 12 man WB joined.

2. Same 40 players solo queue and same 12 man WB queues. This time the system creates 2 city instances: 1 with WB + 12 solo queuers and a second with 24 solo queuers.

Example 1 means 28 players queued solo dont get an instance.
Example 2 means just 4 people miss out on an instance.

This would benefit both Order and Destro.
And now read again, that it was about solo queue with 2-2-2 matchmaking. When 5 healers and tanks but 18 dps are in queue, it won't work.

Re: City Solo Queue as Ranked SC

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 1:30 pm
by nat3s
Sulorie wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 1:21 pm
nat3s wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 1:17 pm
Sulorie wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:17 pm

Then you never get pops.
It works totally fine to join city solo or as duo already, I see no reason to change it to cater even more towards solo play.

Just to correct post above, queuing solo does not create a new city instance, you can only get added to WB that opened an instance with < 24 players. OP is talking about having solo queuers spawning a city instance.

Here are 2 examples if you're not following it, first is what happens now, second is OP's suggestion:

1. Currently 40 people may be solo queued and 12 people queued as a WB, the system will spawn 1 instance for the 12 man WB and then feed 12 of the 40 solo queuers into the 12 spaces in the instance after the 12 man WB joined.

2. Same 40 players solo queue and same 12 man WB queues. This time the system creates 2 city instances: 1 with WB + 12 solo queuers and a second with 24 solo queuers.

Example 1 means 28 players queued solo dont get an instance.
Example 2 means just 4 people miss out on an instance.

This would benefit both Order and Destro.
And now read again, that it was about solo queue with 2-2-2 matchmaking. When 5 healers and tanks but 18 dps are in queue, it won't work.

Sorry yes you're right, my suggestion doesn't adhere to what the OP puts forward.

So in contrast to the OP, if people could queue solo i think they need to accept that they won't get perfect 2/2/2 matchmaking. The system should just pile solos in like 18 dps, 4 healers, 2 tanks... That's preferable to those 24 players spending 3 weeks waiting for a city and 20 minutes in a queue only for no instance and it's better than the Mythic solution on live of empty instances right?