Return of Reckoning

StrongUn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:36 pm Yes, solo players are free renown for solo dps AM/Shaman.

teiloh wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:23 pm

Rapzel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:43 pm 1st of all WL fetch is way easier to get off than mara pull.
2nd there's a long blue line between you and the mara when he pulls you, what the f are you talking about?
3rd Order has 3 pounce like abilities, destro has 1, making gap closing if not easier at least equally easy.

1. no it isn't. The WL requires a pet, the pet has to get to you, and then the WL needs to maintain distance between himself and the pet. Because WL pet damage has been destroyed outside of a tiny control radius, this requires major sacrifice. Then there's loner.
2. there's a fat white lion between you and the WL when he pulls. Very obvious.
3. Destro has 6 speed buffs vs Order's 1 (SH has 3, Shaman has 1, Chosen has 1, WE has 1) tactics and abilities, how about that for "gap closers", the make-believe category of abilities Destro invented so they can pretend they're underpowered and argue for undeserved buffs?

Nishka wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:34 pm

Rapzel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:43 pm

Nishka wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:10 pm

I assume Sorcs suffer even more when it comes to facing dps ams, because they have no cleanse. But at the same time they have somewhat easier life, because order has less pulls. 1 less pull and WL pull being less effective and more telegraphed than Mara pull.

1st of all WL fetch is way easier to get off than mara pull.
2nd there's a long blue line between you and the mara when he pulls you, what the f are you talking about?
3rd Order has 3 pounce like abilities, destro has 1, making gap closing if not easier at least equally easy.

Fetch is easier to to get off than pull? You're like... Serious here?
You can see fetch coming at you from miles away and prepare counter measures. If you see a lion slowly running towards you, you can run behind cover, get out of range, use any form of cc on the lion or just outright kill him.
Meanwhile against pull you have 2 seconds to defend yourself with 2 options available: run behind cover or run away. Mara will most likely run towards you while preparing his pull, so you probably won't be able to get enough distance. This leaves us with just 1 defense option. Not to mention that many maps don't even have any obstacles to hide behind.

Rapzel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:50 pm

teiloh wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:23 pm

Rapzel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:43 pm 1st of all WL fetch is way easier to get off than mara pull.
2nd there's a long blue line between you and the mara when he pulls you, what the f are you talking about?
3rd Order has 3 pounce like abilities, destro has 1, making gap closing if not easier at least equally easy.

1. no it isn't. The WL requires a pet, the pet has to get to you, and then the WL needs to maintain distance between himself and the pet. Because WL pet damage has been destroyed outside of a tiny control radius, this requires major sacrifice. Then there's loner.
2. there's a fat white lion between you and the WL when he pulls. Very obvious.
3. Destro has 6 speed buffs vs Order's 1 (SH has 3, Shaman has 1, Chosen has 1, WE has 1) tactics and abilities, how about that for "gap closers", the make-believe category of abilities Destro invented so they can pretend they're underpowered and argue for undeserved buffs?

Chosen and IB have the same tactic, I guess you mean Choppa with GTDC. You also forget shadow warrior speed buff, used to be on swift strikes but is now in guerilla tactics in scout tree.

Are we going to start discussing dwarf racials as well in thread about BW damage?