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[Black Orc] Build feedback for a noob.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:07 pm
by Gorikon
I duo with a marauder and usually keep him guarded si my goal is to keep him alive as well as support my warband when i get there. I run SnB and i want to be the tankiest pain in the ass there ever was.

https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 81,4464,44

Re: [Black Orc] Build feedback for a noob.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:01 pm
by Nekkma
Why do you want to be the tankiest pain there ever was when duoing? If duoroaming I would rather go for a 2h build to help out with damage while still being sufficiently tanky.

Re: [Black Orc] Build feedback for a noob.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:14 pm
by grapefruit
Being the tankiest wont make you a pain in the ass it will just make you useless.
Call it a flag capping build.
Your good for not much other then be a meatshield on a flag.
Edit: For wb play could go something like this https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,4464,4481
You just keep WAAAAGH up with the cd for cd reduction for your grp + a big aoe corp debuff on enemy and you hold the frontline or whatever.
You also use the morale on block tactic for fast m3-m4 wich you can use offensive or defensive.
If you just duo i would probably go bit more offensive tho.
You can stay SnB to learn the class and get familiar.
For wbs you want to use SNB annyway probably.
For duo/grp play you will want to go 2h in the end.

Re: [Black Orc] Build feedback for a noob.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:55 pm
by Noslock
If you duo go 2h.U can be a pain in the ass and tanky enuff even as 2h if you pick the right targets and dont rush into wb as a duo.With 5 wl and 3 dps sov i have 11k hp - 800 tough - 700 str- 500+ ws - 70% parry with weapon proc up and -18 chance to be crit.Sounds tanky enuff for a 2h.

Re: [Black Orc] Build feedback for a noob.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:16 pm
by Kurama
Is Bloodlord set good enough until getting off sov/ wl ?

Re: [Black Orc] Build feedback for a noob.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:44 am
by Vri
grapefruit wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:14 pm Being the tankiest wont make you a pain in the ass it will just make you useless.
Call it a flag capping build.
Your good for not much other then be a meatshield on a flag.
Edit: For wb play could go something like this https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,4464,4481
You just keep WAAAAGH up with the cd for cd reduction for your grp + a big aoe corp debuff on enemy and you hold the frontline or whatever.
You also use the morale on block tactic for fast m3-m4 wich you can use offensive or defensive.
If you just duo i would probably go bit more offensive tho.
You can stay SnB to learn the class and get familiar.
For wbs you want to use SNB annyway probably.
For duo/grp play you will want to go 2h in the end.
Why do you not take Less Stabbin Me for WB ?

Re: [Black Orc] Build feedback for a noob.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:29 am
by arturziomas
Personally I'd recommend this RoR.builders - Black Orc as a baseline snb build, for morale 1 use whatever, and for 4th tactic slot use whatever feels necessary at any given point, morale pump is great, or maybe wounds if you feel like you need it, etc And with extra rr ranks progress towards "Not in da face".
Kurama wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:16 pm Is Bloodlord set good enough until getting off sov/ wl ?
I'd say so, its invader-tier dps set with some nice stats, can't remember set bonuses off the top of my head but probably it might be worth mixing and matching with other sets for max stats.
Vri wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:44 am Why do you not take Less Stabbin Me for WB ?
Personally i didn't like this tactic at all, looks a lot better on paper than it is in reality imo, feels awkward to use, i'd much rather have infinite ap with 'stop hitting da runts'

Re: [Black Orc] Build feedback for a noob.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:37 pm
by Vri
arturziomas wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:29 am Personally I'd recommend this RoR.builders - Black Orc as a baseline snb build, for morale 1 use whatever, and for 4th tactic slot use whatever feels necessary at any given point, morale pump is great, or maybe wounds if you feel like you need it, etc And with extra rr ranks progress towards "Not in da face".
Kurama wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:16 pm Is Bloodlord set good enough until getting off sov/ wl ?
I'd say so, its invader-tier dps set with some nice stats, can't remember set bonuses off the top of my head but probably it might be worth mixing and matching with other sets for max stats.
Vri wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:44 am Why do you not take Less Stabbin Me for WB ?
Personally i didn't like this tactic at all, looks a lot better on paper than it is in reality imo, feels awkward to use, i'd much rather have infinite ap with 'stop hitting da runts'
I do tend to forget to us CDP and use the tacts block %

Re: [Black Orc] Build feedback for a noob.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:41 pm
by grapefruit
Vri wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:44 am
grapefruit wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:14 pm Being the tankiest wont make you a pain in the ass it will just make you useless.
Call it a flag capping build.
Your good for not much other then be a meatshield on a flag.
Edit: For wb play could go something like this https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,4464,4481
You just keep WAAAAGH up with the cd for cd reduction for your grp + a big aoe corp debuff on enemy and you hold the frontline or whatever.
You also use the morale on block tactic for fast m3-m4 wich you can use offensive or defensive.
If you just duo i would probably go bit more offensive tho.
You can stay SnB to learn the class and get familiar.
For wbs you want to use SNB annyway probably.
For duo/grp play you will want to go 2h in the end.
Why do you not take Less Stabbin Me for WB ?
Becouse i dont play in wb

Re: [Black Orc] Build feedback for a noob.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:26 am
by Vri
grapefruit wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:41 pm
Vri wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:44 am
grapefruit wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:14 pm Being the tankiest wont make you a pain in the ass it will just make you useless.
Call it a flag capping build.
Your good for not much other then be a meatshield on a flag.
Edit: For wb play could go something like this https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,4464,4481
You just keep WAAAAGH up with the cd for cd reduction for your grp + a big aoe corp debuff on enemy and you hold the frontline or whatever.
You also use the morale on block tactic for fast m3-m4 wich you can use offensive or defensive.
If you just duo i would probably go bit more offensive tho.
You can stay SnB to learn the class and get familiar.
For wbs you want to use SNB annyway probably.
For duo/grp play you will want to go 2h in the end.
Why do you not take Less Stabbin Me for WB ?
Becouse i dont play in wb
Thats not just useful in WB. Do the math on your block and add the tacs %.