Return of Reckoning

Hello!

Is there any forum post, website, spreadsheet where we can see all the city fights from 1st to last and their statistics like how many Order / Destro won, which claimed most victories, what was the proportion between tank-heal-dps, who had the highest damage / protection / healing from all, how many instances were generated, etc?

Thanks

I believe there was one floating around here, but not sure how long since it was updated. Search around a bit, you should find it.

Those stats and breakdown aren't publicly available.

Previous stats for City siege player collected were around and average of 75% Destro City win, Order went through a two month period when they had some 50-50, I think even once or twice Order won more than Destro. Now we are probably worse than ever with most Cities 75-85% Destro win. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39836 but old stats

Some of the Destro lobbyist will probably come in now and say it is purely 100% a Premade vs Pug issue with absolutely nothing at all to do with faction balance.

Can you realise that those "stats" only showing who won stage 3 which is basically a pve race in a wb vs wb encounters?

Gurf wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:44 am Those stats and breakdown aren't publicly available.

Previous stats for City siege player collected were around and average of 75% Destro City win, Order went through a two month period when they had some 50-50, I think even once or twice Order won more than Destro. Now we are probably worse than ever with most Cities 75-85% Destro win. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39836 but old stats

Some of the Destro lobbyist will probably come in now and say it is purely 100% a Premade vs Pug issue with absolutely nothing at all to do with faction balance.

You mean destro lobbyist will come with facts, yeah.. the horror

Panodil wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:07 am
You mean destro lobbyist will come with facts, yeah.. the horror

Here we goooo....

Hmmm... Last week looks like

IC IC Altorf IC IC IC IC

and 15-20 min waiting for Q

How do you even lose city as Order? Bring a stack of Slayers, BWs, few good WLs, maybe a good SW, maybe 1 good engi - then have 8 tanks and 8 good healers and you will easily roflstomp the majority of Destro "organized /5 groups".
Sure, we have lost maybe 3-4 cities past year versus the likes of Destro 6man alliance or somehow losing stage 3 pve race against FMJ with 300-100 kill advantage, but generally the idea of having more dmg and more heals stacked on your side, but still losing is somewhat weird.
Yeah, maybe gearing SL and BW gets boring after you have full Sov, but still, you have so many possible comps with armor debuffs from SW, armor debuffs from Engi, armor debuffs from WH - or even armor debuff from WL... Heal buffs from RP+Kotb+AM stacking and possible 9th healer in WB being the SM.

It just feels most of Order is not even trying to form into good warbands before they instaqueue and hope for the loser bags when entering cities.

Panodil wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:07 am
You mean destro lobbyist will come with facts, yeah.. the horror

The conspiracy theories about unbalanced realms and biased devs are much better !!
stop with your "facts and logic" we dont do that here!!

Panodil wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:07 am

Gurf wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:44 am Those stats and breakdown aren't publicly available.

Previous stats for City siege player collected were around and average of 75% Destro City win, Order went through a two month period when they had some 50-50, I think even once or twice Order won more than Destro. Now we are probably worse than ever with most Cities 75-85% Destro win. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39836 but old stats

Some of the Destro lobbyist will probably come in now and say it is purely 100% a Premade vs Pug issue with absolutely nothing at all to do with faction balance.

You mean destro lobbyist will come with facts, yeah.. the horror

The facts of premade vs pug? if you have these stats I would like to see them? As far as I am aware there are no stats or facts around this, just a few people saying that Order only pug, despite /5 being full of people organising premades for every City at a normal time