Return of Reckoning

Dear Devs/Community,

GTDC and ID have been discussed countless times, and there is no easy way to balance them unless you mirror them in each realm... On each side, it is hard to assess the impact of realm imbalance it creates.
Inevitable Doom makes slayer stacking quite a frontload heavy pressure
GTDC messes up/shreds casters and light armor DPS badly

Let's take the scientific approach by running a little experiment!

1. I propose that for a couple of months we swap GTDC to the Slayer and ID to the Choppa
2. On the outcome of the experiment we discuss either:
- Revert it back to its current situation
- Destruction keeps ID and Order keeps GTDC
- both Realm get ID AND GTDC (the easiest is to bound them to the Choppa and the Slayer anyway, but mirror them to a Marauder/WL/aSW - not SH sorry - could be funny and broaden the synergies)

/discuss

Edit : fixed thanks I wrote Rampage but though ID

Who care about GTDC...give choppa ID with 10sec cd(due chop fasta). Problem solved.

Cant give a class ID that has 25% Crit Dmg Boost tactic, anyone with game knowledge would see what 1k ID ticks will do

ravezaar wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:10 pm Cant give a class ID that has 25% Crit Dmg Boost tactic, anyone with game knowledge would see what 1k ID ticks will do

Remove this tactic then...not using it at all. You can't stack high crit on choppa.
Don't forget that Slayer has better critical tactics than Choppa.

GTDC is ID "mirror", not Rampage.
So I'd propose : Rampage <-> Chop Fasta, ID <-> GtdC, additionaly, you will lose control over your Slayer from time to time and your character will run in random direction launching GtdC to mirror average Choppa playstyle.

Sadly Rampage mirror is stil all mighty 100AP pot.

M0rw47h wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:47 pm GTDC is ID "mirror", not Rampage.
So I'd propose : Rampage <-> Chop Fasta, ID <-> GtdC, additionaly, you will lose control over your Slayer from time to time and your character will run in random direction launching GtdC to mirror average Choppa playstyle.

Technically Chop Fasta mirror is Shatter Limbs and Rampage mirror is Keep on Choppin'...

Mergrim wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:23 pm

ravezaar wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:10 pm Cant give a class ID that has 25% Crit Dmg Boost tactic, anyone with game knowledge would see what 1k ID ticks will do

Remove this tactic then...not using it at all. You can't stack high crit on choppa.
Don't forget that Slayer has better critical tactics than Choppa.

Slayer has 1 and its speccable, Choppas is Core so I disagree

ravezaar wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:00 pm

Mergrim wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:23 pm

ravezaar wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:10 pm Cant give a class ID that has 25% Crit Dmg Boost tactic, anyone with game knowledge would see what 1k ID ticks will do

Remove this tactic then...not using it at all. You can't stack high crit on choppa.
Don't forget that Slayer has better critical tactics than Choppa.

Slayer has 1 and its speccable, Choppas is Core so I disagree

This is your opionion...you seen 'bring it on' 3k hit? me nah i hit on slayer retribution 3k with this tactic on low hp:D
7point in first tree before heal debuff, not big deal that you need spent 1 extra point.

Still both tactic no use with ppl running around -20-30% chance to be crit when choppa/slayer have 20-25% crit chance, it's just tactic slot lost. Good vs pug crap vs good enemy team.

A better experiment:

1. Remove rampage - give them mirror 100 AP pot.

2. Make GtdC undefendable - pulls still respect immunity. Now both sides can deal with the BS that is undefendable melee damage on a smaller scale.

3. Give GtdC to Slayer as well, remove whatever ability it replaces.

4. Watch as order players start complaining about slayers spamming GtdS and making all destro tanks punt immune.

Bonus theory crafting:

5. Watch Order players demand they revert all changes.