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Return the armor debuff to choppa class
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:23 pm
by opalochka
Devs, return the armor debuff to choppa class instead of healing debuff, pls! Ppl want to see choppa class as it was on official server
Re: Return the armor debuff to choppa class
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:09 pm
by Magusar
Aren't you confused by the fact that the choppa's armordebuff was removed in 2010?
I don’t think this is a good exchange removed incoming hd.
if devs decide to do it, it will be epic rofl.
Re: Return the armor debuff to choppa class
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:22 pm
by opalochka
Anyway this debuff is important and very useful.
Re: Return the armor debuff to choppa class
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:36 pm
by ravezaar
Neither Choppa nor Slayer has armor debuff or armor ignore skills, they had Weapons with Armor debuff procs on in Live end game specially wich did boost the classes. Would be fun to get that option as a Weapon again, but seems RoR Devs removed that. They gave it to classes already having armor debuff instead thro Sentinel Weapons
Re: Return the armor debuff to choppa class
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:46 pm
by Mergrim
Better bring old warlord bonus with 1600/1800 armor debuff proc:D
Nerf squig/sw/mara/wl and everything will be fine
Re: Return the armor debuff to choppa class
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:40 am
by MagnarBuckethead
well giving chopa/slayer armor debuff would place them as frontline support
which is one of the roles that WH can take (armor/morale/healing debuff exchanged for lower burst and emphasis on ST dps)
I might make choppah and slayer even more meta/necessary to bring on the competitive scene.
Just saying
Re: Return the armor debuff to choppa class
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:33 pm
by CountTalabecland
Slayer/Choppa should not have an on-demand armor debuff or really any armor debuff ability. They can already stack high WS and max str to ignore a good chunk of armor.
The game is more balanced with them having to rely on groupmates in order to get an armor debuff on a target.
This game does not need Slayer/Choppa to be stronger than they already are, especially not Order where Slayer is already the only viable DPS.
Re: Return the armor debuff to choppa class
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:18 pm
by Mergrim
CountTalabecland wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:33 pm
Slayer/Choppa should not have an on-demand armor debuff or really any armor debuff ability. They can already stack high WS and max str to ignore a good chunk of armor.
The game is more balanced with them having to rely on groupmates in order to get an armor debuff on a target.
This game does not need Slayer/Choppa to be stronger than they already are, especially not Order where Slayer is already the only viable DPS.
You are wrong.
Look on city score. Slayer and choppa are easy outdps by wl/aoe sw/melle squig/aoe mara, and all those classes except sw have better survi/mobility.
no logic, the classes with the weakest endurance now also inflict the least damage.
Re: Return the armor debuff to choppa class
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:05 pm
by HavocHN
You could always rock the lvl25 pve set, that has armor debuff.
Re: Return the armor debuff to choppa class
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:39 pm
by CountTalabecland
Mergrim wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:18 pm
CountTalabecland wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:33 pm
Slayer/Choppa should not have an on-demand armor debuff or really any armor debuff ability. They can already stack high WS and max str to ignore a good chunk of armor.
The game is more balanced with them having to rely on groupmates in order to get an armor debuff on a target.
This game does not need Slayer/Choppa to be stronger than they already are, especially not Order where Slayer is already the only viable DPS.
You are wrong.
Look on city score. Slayer and choppa are easy outdps by wl/aoe sw/melle squig/aoe mara, and all those classes except sw have better survi/mobility.
no logic, the classes with the weakest endurance now also inflict the least damage.
I’m not even good and I can outdamage all of those classes except some top WLs.
Slayers like DwarfsofEkrund and Choppas like Grufrip and the like can put literally every other class to shame in pure numbers.
Beyond that, multiple Slayers/Choppas with coordinated AoE are still the biggest AoE damage spikes available without morales.
WL/Sh/Mara can all put up big numbers but they lack the massive dmg dealt by Slayer/Choppa stacks in good gear.
You can call me wrong again if it makes you feel good but go read a scoreboard and you’ll see.