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Lvl 21

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:33 pm
by dave2278
With the mastery tree added will we have extra lvls?

Re: Lvl 21

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:47 pm
by amputationsaw
No lvl increase till the next mastery abilities were fixed

Re: Lvl 21

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:13 pm
by Jaycub
Level 21 will be nice, the current meta in T2 is pretty stale w/ only 3? classes having either weak or outgoing only heal debuffs. I know there is a few classes that get good heal debuffs at for their 5 point mastery ability.

Re: Lvl 21

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:17 pm
by Penril
Jaycub wrote:Level 21 will be nice, the current meta in T2 is pretty stale w/ only 3? classes having either weak or outgoing only heal debuffs. I know there is a few classes that get good heal debuffs at for their 5 point mastery ability.
Which ones?

SWs get theirs at 21.
Choppas, WEs, WHs, SHs and Slayers get theirs at 25.
DoKs, Maras, Zealots and RPs at 27.

So only SWs (and therefore order) benefit from an incoming heal debuff at level 21. Add that to their ranged KD and... yeah, **** that ****.

Yeah, just gonna say no to a lvl cap of 21. Make it 25 next time at least so Destro also gets a inc heal debuff.

Re: Lvl 21

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:25 pm
by dave2278
Penril wrote:
Jaycub wrote:Level 21 will be nice, the current meta in T2 is pretty stale w/ only 3? classes having either weak or outgoing only heal debuffs. I know there is a few classes that get good heal debuffs at for their 5 point mastery ability.
Which ones?

SWs get theirs at 21.
Choppas, WEs, WHs, SHs and Slayers get theirs at 25.
DoKs, Maras, Zealots and RPs at 27.

So only SWs (and therefore order) benefit from an incoming heal debuff at level 21. Add that to their ranged KD and... yeah, **** that ****.

Yeah, just gonna say no to a lvl cap of 21. Make it 25 next time at least so Destro also gets a inc heal debuff.
That seems fair

Re: Lvl 21

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:26 pm
by Joshwa70
Wl never get one... take them out of the game

Re: Lvl 21

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:30 pm
by Penril
Joshwa70 wrote:Wl never get one... take them out of the game
They get an outgoing heal debuff at level 29. They must be at their target's side or rear though.

Yeah, it sucks ass compared to the other classes incoming heal debuffs. I would remove the position conditional and make it incoming instead of outgoing. After all, it is a 14 points skill.

Re: Lvl 21

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:35 pm
by Jaycub
Penril wrote: Which ones?

SWs get theirs at 21.
Choppas, WEs, WHs, SHs and Slayers get theirs at 25.
DoKs, Maras, Zealots and RPs at 27.

So only SWs (and therefore order) benefit from an incoming heal debuff at level 21. Add that to their ranged KD and... yeah, **** that ****.

Yeah, just gonna say no to a lvl cap of 21. Make it 25 next time at least so Destro also gets a inc heal debuff.
Marauder has incoming heal debuff at like level 12? And I think chosen get their aura at 21?

Re: Lvl 21

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:37 pm
by Penril
Jaycub wrote:
Penril wrote: Which ones?

SWs get theirs at 21.
Choppas, WEs, WHs, SHs and Slayers get theirs at 25.
DoKs, Maras, Zealots and RPs at 27.

So only SWs (and therefore order) benefit from an incoming heal debuff at level 21. Add that to their ranged KD and... yeah, **** that ****.

Yeah, just gonna say no to a lvl cap of 21. Make it 25 next time at least so Destro also gets a inc heal debuff.
Marauder has incoming heal debuff at like level 12? And I think chosen get their aura at 21?
Marauder heal debuff is only 25%. To make it 50% they need a tactic (Deadly Clutch) which they can only spec at level 27.

Chosen get heal debuff aura (if spec'd) at 21 but it is also 25%. SWs on the other hand can spec Shadow Sting at lvl 21 which is a 50% inc heal debuff.

Re: Lvl 21

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:38 pm
by Jayzboi
Penril, if the sw pisses you of that much, why do you even waste your energy playing the game? Deal with it.