Nerf WE

[Sarnai]

As it's been said the regen is not the problem. Regen items/RR only works if it has TIME to work. And what needs looked at is what gives WH/WE that time.

WH: Self-heal tactic, far far too strong for an on-demand heal (especially with Flowing Accusations and Dragon Gun's AOE application of bullets) and the WE's is an absolute joke by comparison. The constant healspam is what gives the regen items time to work. This only applies to the WH, since the WE's tactic relies completely on a 25% chance to proc AND an ICD. Sanctified Bullets needs nerfed hard.

WE: Witchbrew, being corporeal damage and not scaling at all with strength, allows it to ignore toughness and armor with zero investment in the class's mainstat. Classes are balanced around their mainstat to prevent them from being able to invest too much into other stats and remove the inherent weaknesses that every class needs to have. Geared defensive Witchbrew WEs are out there with less than 500 strength, stacking toughness/parry/ect to give them the defenses needed for regen to actually play a part. Making Witchbrew scale with strength is the simple solution. It would be absolutely absurd to ask an engi to make a viable build with less than 500 BS, or a sorc with less than 500 int. A choppa or slayer with less than 500 strength? Forget about it. Any class having a viable build that requires absolutely zero mainstat stacking is a balance issue.


For both classes: Make Declare Anathema/Agile Escape defendable again, or just turn it into a snare or something. A core undefendable 6 sec stagger is just crazy.

[redsunbp]

As it's been said the regen is not the problem. Regen items/RR only works if it has TIME to work. And what needs looked at is what gives WH/WE that time.

WH: Self-heal tactic, far far too strong for an on-demand heal (especially with Flowing Accusations and Dragon Gun's AOE application of bullets) and the WE's is an absolute joke by comparison. The constant healspam is what gives the regen items time to work. This only applies to the WH, since the WE's tactic relies completely on a 25% chance to proc AND an ICD. Sanctified Bullets needs nerfed hard.

WE: Witchbrew, being corporeal damage and not scaling at all with strength, allows it to ignore toughness and armor with zero investment in the class's mainstat. Classes are balanced around their mainstat to prevent them from being able to invest too much into other stats and remove the inherent weaknesses that every class needs to have. Geared defensive Witchbrew WEs are out there with less than 500 strength, stacking toughness/parry/ect to give them the defenses needed for regen to actually play a part. Making Witchbrew scale with strength is the simple solution. It would be absolutely absurd to ask an engi to make a viable build with less than 500 BS, or a sorc with less than 500 int. A choppa or slayer with less than 500 strength? Forget about it. Any class having a viable build that requires absolutely zero mainstat stacking is a balance issue.


For both classes: Make Declare Anathema/Agile Escape defendable again, or just turn it into a snare or something. A core undefendable 6 sec stagger is just crazy.

Please apply for realm champ instead of the people in this thread

[KissShot]

As it's been said the regen is not the problem. Regen items/RR only works if it has TIME to work. And what needs looked at is what gives WH/WE that time.

WH: Self-heal tactic, far far too strong for an on-demand heal (especially with Flowing Accusations and Dragon Gun's AOE application of bullets) and the WE's is an absolute joke by comparison. The constant healspam is what gives the regen items time to work. This only applies to the WH, since the WE's tactic relies completely on a 25% chance to proc AND an ICD. Sanctified Bullets needs nerfed hard.

WE: Witchbrew, being corporeal damage and not scaling at all with strength, allows it to ignore toughness and armor with zero investment in the class's mainstat. Classes are balanced around their mainstat to prevent them from being able to invest too much into other stats and remove the inherent weaknesses that every class needs to have. Geared defensive Witchbrew WEs are out there with less than 500 strength, stacking toughness/parry/ect to give them the defenses needed for regen to actually play a part. Making Witchbrew scale with strength is the simple solution. It would be absolutely absurd to ask an engi to make a viable build with less than 500 BS, or a sorc with less than 500 int. A choppa or slayer with less than 500 strength? Forget about it. Any class having a viable build that requires absolutely zero mainstat stacking is a balance issue.


For both classes: Make Declare Anathema/Agile Escape defendable again, or just turn it into a snare or something. A core undefendable 6 sec stagger is just crazy.

I'll let you take away WB entirely if you give me RB

[Krima]

As it's been said the regen is not the problem. Regen items/RR only works if it has TIME to work. And what needs looked at is what gives WH/WE that time.

WH: Self-heal tactic, far far too strong for an on-demand heal (especially with Flowing Accusations and Dragon Gun's AOE application of bullets) and the WE's is an absolute joke by comparison. The constant healspam is what gives the regen items time to work. This only applies to the WH, since the WE's tactic relies completely on a 25% chance to proc AND an ICD. Sanctified Bullets needs nerfed hard.

WE: Witchbrew, being corporeal damage and not scaling at all with strength, allows it to ignore toughness and armor with zero investment in the class's mainstat. Classes are balanced around their mainstat to prevent them from being able to invest too much into other stats and remove the inherent weaknesses that every class needs to have. Geared defensive Witchbrew WEs are out there with less than 500 strength, stacking toughness/parry/ect to give them the defenses needed for regen to actually play a part. Making Witchbrew scale with strength is the simple solution. It would be absolutely absurd to ask an engi to make a viable build with less than 500 BS, or a sorc with less than 500 int. A choppa or slayer with less than 500 strength? Forget about it. Any class having a viable build that requires absolutely zero mainstat stacking is a balance issue.


For both classes: Make Declare Anathema/Agile Escape defendable again, or just turn it into a snare or something. A core undefendable 6 sec stagger is just crazy.

I'll let you take away WB entirely if you give me RB

You all... listen

Witchbrew is the most boring skill ever made.. the gameplay on WE is ridiculous boring.
Spam - AW, pop WB - Repeat.
IMO can nerf it to the ground!! bind WB to str!! lets do it

Ill do trade WB for the following without thinking twice:

- RB
- EW
- BAL
- Seekers blade
- Burn armor

anyday...

[space44]

some sad sap got ganked by a WE solo running to a fort or trying to make it to a keep and now he/she/it/deamonette is now crying by virtue signaling WEs having to be nerfed. theres ample ways to play solo successfully with many builds and homebrew builds to counter a stealther, if you were ganked and died while having the backing of multiple people then your trash and its a skill issue.

[powerhead5]

What about def/riposte WH? Huh? noone? well, makes sense.

[Sinisterror]

What about def/riposte WH? Huh? noone? well, makes sense.

Lol riposte on we/wh. If you want Riposte build go for slayer/choppa and u can do over 600 riposte dmg.

[rrrutsss]

What about def/riposte WH? Huh? noone? well, makes sense.

Lol riposte on we/wh. If you want Riposte build go for slayer/choppa and u can do over 600 riposte dmg.

Wh got repela and can get m1 after repel instantly dragon gun. So 12 secs of parry instantly

[powerhead5]

What about def/riposte WH? Huh? noone? well, makes sense.

Lol riposte on we/wh. If you want Riposte build go for slayer/choppa and u can do over 600 riposte dmg.

Wh got repela and can get m1 after repel instantly dragon gun. So 12 secs of parry instantly

the guy dont care. Actually noone care.

[Sinisterror]

What about def/riposte WH? Huh? noone? well, makes sense.

Lol riposte on we/wh. If you want Riposte build go for slayer/choppa and u can do over 600 riposte dmg.

Wh got repela and can get m1 after repel instantly dragon gun. So 12 secs of parry instantly

Why would you waste Repel Blasphemy doing Dragon Gun after it? Just do Dragon Gun and after 3 seconds do Repel Blasphemy and 12 second parry "instantly" is not true lol. Yeah everyone know's wh can get parry for 12 seconds but all dps can get it for 7 seconds. Everyone is tactic starved in this game but with berserk all the time slayer/choppa Riposte does insane dmg.