Return of Reckoning

Hi!!!

This is not a very important suggest to keep alive the server, but i think i must do it

For a Kislevite roleplayer (And for all Warhammer's lore lovers) like me, Praag is a nightmare: All the buildings have a Twin Tailed Comet in the doors and looks like from an Empire city, also there are not any real Kislevites troops in WCs, PVE Chapters and PQs. I know the buildings textures cant be changed, but i think we can improve the roleplay switching the Empire NPCs by Kislev NPCs


Praag Banner. There are not any Kislevite in the WC, but a lot of Empire troops


There are only 5-6 Kossars in Praag (Coord 46,25)


Sargent of Kislev from Battle of Praag SC

Some examples of Empire NPCs in Praag:



The general looks like a poor Great Sword from Empire.









Kislevite regulars looks like an Empire soldier, not a Kislevite






Defenders of West PRaag Keep

There will be possible Switch the Empire NPC in Praag (And West Praag) for Kossars NPCs and Kislevites Sargeants (from Battle for Praag SC)???? I will be very happy in help you if this is it possible.

Thank you GMs!

While you are correct regarding Praag (lore-wise being a Kislev city). I offer You a counterpoint. As a native to Czech Republic and Praag being a city inspired by historical Prague (Our capital; There is even astronomical clock on the city's square!) I must say that It's a city that shares hardly anything with Kislev (Russian) architecture. Overall it's one of the most gothic-like historical cities in the world and probably much closer to what you would expect from Empire -> Thus the looks of it is actually more fitting the city it's modeled after!

Also just checked warhammer wiki and based on this line "Praag is the oldest city in Kislev, built by Ungol lords before the coming of the Gospodars." It may probably look quite different from usual Kislev city.

kislev is more likly rzecpospolita than russia. there wasnt such russia byt moscovia and novgorod respublik. russia appeared after peter first. byt we play 14-15 century fantasy world. in irl rzesposoplita was last civilization barriar. after that was only barbarians. in wh sigmar age same. kislevite is last civilization land and after it chaos and orks and chaos dwarfs
y u can compare houses in aldorf and in praag arhcihectura.

normanis wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 4:04 am kislev is more likly rzecpospolita than russia. there wasnt such russia byt moscovia and novgorod respublik. russia appeared after peter first. byt we play 14-15 century fantasy world. in irl rzesposoplita was last civilization barriar. after that was only barbarians. in wh sigmar age same. kislevite is last civilization land and after it chaos and orks and chaos dwarfs
y u can compare houses in aldorf and in praag arhcihectura.

That's not a history TV channel, but I guess you meant Russian Empire was founded by Peter First. Along with Poland existed Tsardom of Russia, founded by Ivan the Terrible. "Tzardom of Kislev" doesn't it seem familiar now?
Anyway, don't want to be "that guy", just my two cents.

Though it should be admitted, that Kislev ofcourse is inspired not only by Tsardom of Russia or I Rzeczpospolita Polska etc., because Kislev is inspired by the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth AND Russia of the 16th and 17th centuries, though its name highly likely derived from the city of Kiev.

No matter from what it's inspired. There is Artwork etc. regarding Kislev, and Kpi has a good point, and to be serious, why not?

Everdin wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 7:57 am No matter from what it's inspired. There is Artwork etc. regarding Kislev, and Kpi has a good point, and to be serious, why not?

Agreed. Kpi's suggestions are definitely fair and interesting.

GorkaBorka wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 5:48 am

normanis wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 4:04 am kislev is more likly rzecpospolita than russia. there wasnt such russia byt moscovia and novgorod respublik. russia appeared after peter first. byt we play 14-15 century fantasy world. in irl rzesposoplita was last civilization barriar. after that was only barbarians. in wh sigmar age same. kislevite is last civilization land and after it chaos and orks and chaos dwarfs
y u can compare houses in aldorf and in praag arhcihectura.

That's not a history TV channel, but I guess you meant Russian Empire was founded by Peter First. Along with Poland existed Tsardom of Russia, founded by Ivan the Terrible. "Tzardom of Kislev" doesn't it seem familiar now?
Anyway, don't want to be "that guy", just my two cents.

Kislev's location, history, language, religious hierarchy, and culture correspond with a mixture of medieval and early modern Slavic states located in the real world nations of Russia, Belarus, Poland and Ukraine. In particular, the older descriptions of Kislev borrow mostly from the history and culture of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth as well as the Tsardom of Russia while the "newer" version of Kislev seen when Games Workshop fleshed out the faction in Total War: Warhammer III and Warhammer: The Old World seems to take further inspiration, at least aestetically, from the medieval KIEVAN Rus' confederation of early Russian states.

Kislev is the name of the third month of the civil year and the ninth month of the ecclesiastical year on the Hebrew calendar.
p.s its from wiki. my thoughts gw changing their own lore. (again)

https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Kislev
this is for ppl who whant roleplay kislevites or know better

would be nice to see ingame kislevites (i told this very long ago already) and chaos dwarfs. to balance around new races game. what 1 side lack are given to new race. (if noone whant mirror balance with 4 races)