Return of Reckoning

Hi,

What do i want to address?
Give more incentives to move to other zones

Background:
Currently Praag has 160% AAO for one Side;
Population is 157 Players and there are two actives zones - the Second Zone is empty...
If you want to fill the second Zone you get Wartorn Aparthy

What can be done?
New Minimum for "War Torn Aparthy" :

• A minimum of x players of your faction in the zone

i suggest 12 - 2 partys

Regards

So you want more incentives for people to avoid each other? What's the point of having destro in one zone and order in the other?

There should be incentive to fight each other, not avoid each other.

It's obviously very hard to get kills when the enemy has twice the numbers. This is where changes could be made, allowing the underdog to get some kills instead of just getting stomped.

One idea would be to add something like a warcry to the lords that gives some kind of boosts for a short amount of time when being outnumbered. To help with holding keeps when you are heavily outnumbered. Same with BOs. Add NPCs and add that warcry so that the underdog can go there and have some kind of advantages when facing enemies there. That ticking aoe dot at the lord that one fort has would also help. Add it to keep lords when being outnumbered and the underdog would have a higher chance to get some kills there. Currently the underdogs gets almost no kills when being greatly outnumbered in a keep. No matter where they trying to hold. Therefore they don't hold at all, don't go there or leave when the second door is open.

Another idea would be to block the postern doors when the aao is high. That would also give the defenders a much higher chance to hold.

Id love to have a damage/heal/wounds buff when playing underdog but I think it would make roaming premades far too strong. Their dps would start erasing things and they wouldn't die either. I think it only makes sense near keeps and bos because these are very very hard to hold when being outnumbered. Some kind of boost wouldn't hurt there.

lumpi33 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:29 am So you want more incentives for people to avoid each other? What's the point of having destro in one zone and order in the other?

It's not all about Zerg vs Zerg fights. I want to have a healthy landscape where a fair fight can occur everywhere not just one big blob rolls over the map.

And i'm addressing here numbers of ~12 Players those missing can't hurt the Zerg.

lumpi33 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:29 am One idea would be to add something like a warcry to the lords that gives some kind of boosts for a short amount of time when being outnumbered. To help with holding keeps when you are heavily outnumbered. Same with BOs. Add NPCs and add that warcry so that the underdog can go there and have some kind of advantages when facing enemies there. That ticking aoe dot at the lord that one fort has would also help. Add it to keep lords when being outnumbered and the underdog would have a higher chance to get some kills there. Currently the underdogs gets almost no kills when being greatly outnumbered in a keep. No matter where they trying to hold. Therefore they don't hold at all, don't go there or leave when the second door is open.

Id love to have a damage/heal/wounds buff when playing underdog but I think it would make roaming premades far too strong. Their dps would start erasing things and they wouldn't die either. I think it only makes sense near keeps and bos because these are very very hard to hold when being outnumbered. Some kind of boost wouldn't hurt there.

Feel free to make your own suggestion with this

b00n wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:37 am Feel free to make your own suggestion with this

Im using your thread for that

@b00n it's not a bad idea, but I don't think it's necessary. After all, you're not getting almost any RR/influence in a zone with this small event population, so % based penalty shouldn't matter this much.

I tend to agree, when less that warbands I don't think malus should be in play, only AAO. Why penaalize the "bigger group" in the off zone that broke away for the "main zerg" in another zone.

i want to give this suggestion another up. Since times have changed and the playerbase really tends more to just PvDoor...

Cyrylius wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:01 am @b00n it's not a bad idea, but I don't think it's necessary. After all, you're not getting almost any RR/influence in a zone with this small event population, so % based penalty shouldn't matter this much.

I think you are mistaken, you get crest for zone locks and bags and that is what Zerg is after. A chance for getting around 20-60 crest is the motivation for the zerg.
Maybe increase the rewards when you take zone with AAO or equal numbers and reduce it to 0 when there are not sufficient defenders?

Ruin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:15 am

Cyrylius wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:01 am @b00n it's not a bad idea, but I don't think it's necessary. After all, you're not getting almost any RR/influence in a zone with this small event population, so % based penalty shouldn't matter this much.

I think you are mistaken, you get crest for zone locks and bags and that is what Zerg is after. A chance for getting around 20-60 crest is the motivation for the zerg.
Maybe increase the rewards when you take zone with AAO or equal numbers and reduce it to 0 when there are not sufficient defenders?

If you tie it to defenders, you will just see the other side not defend/leave. Maybe figure out a way to increase renown/rewards when fighting in the off zone. Compare the 2 active zones, one with least amount of players overall gets a bonus. And do something about forts. the other night was 66 v 4 that is a game issue, not a player base issue.