LOTD balance anyone?

[Acidic]

1 wb of destro kited order blob back to destro wc whilst the rest of destro capped all the bos. By that point destro were 500 points in front.

cant belive this trolling, note all the BO are red and order blob being kited near destro wc. This probably should explaing balance issues with the score board.


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[JohnnyWayne]

1 wb of destro kited order blob back to destro wc whilst the rest of destro capped all the bos. By that point destro were 500 points in front.

cant belive this trolling, note all the BO are red and order blob being kited near destro wc. This probably should explaing balance issues with the score board.


Click here to watch on YouTube

Once destro first pushed all the back BOs, is was clear that we lacked the small scale capabilities to take BOs and if we split we will lose the zerg. That is why that happened - order went for kills. Pugs got farmed somewhere during that time and left, the only thing that remained was a huge pop imbalance.

[Acidic]

1 wb of destro kited order blob back to destro wc whilst the rest of destro capped all the bos. By that point destro were 500 points in front.

cant belive this trolling, note all the BO are red and order blob being kited near destro wc. This probably should explaing balance issues with the score board.


Click here to watch on YouTube

Once destro first pushed all the back BOs, is was clear that we lacked the small scale capabilities to take BOs and if we split we will lose the zerg. That is why that happened - order went for kills. Pugs got farmed somewhere during that time and left, the only thing that remained was a huge pop imbalance.

Can post where the order “not so smart” blob were zerging one Bo at the center BO vs solo warbands wile destro we’re separated out covering order area bo’s , this blob mentality is the reason order loses .

[lumpi33]

Can post where the order “not so smart” blob were zerging one Bo at the center BO vs solo warbands wile destro we’re separated out covering order area bo’s , this blob mentality is the reason order loses .

While it is certainly true that destro was better organized and had the stronger guilds running there are a lot of other factors that makes it a lot harder for order to win in zergy situations.

Destro has a couple of things that makes it easier for them to win in such situations.

For example mSHs are certainly superior with their aoe to skirmish SWs after the nerf. They have choppas, maras, mSHs and even BGs that can spam aoe. Then there is the DoK prayer that has a good chance to snare on hit. Then there are the pulls that makes it a lot harder for Order to escape. Then there is the gits run away that makes it easier for them to get away and harder for order to take them down while they can speed around double hotting targets. Then there are the destro tanks with more damage than order tanks, shield channel and better morals like the BG self heal or the Chosen 300% heal. Then there is the m1 absorb on choppa and the ignore armor pierce, self hot and aoe knock down on maras. Then there is the sorc instant aoe (Infernal Wave) vs the damage over time on the BW (Flame breath).

All these little things add up in zergy situations, especially in lotd where everybody gets this stacking damage debuff that makes it even harder to kill the overall more tanky destros.

There is a reason why destro is winning like 8 out of 10 lotds and it's not always bad play by order. They just have it easier. When there are no strong slayer groups running order is completely lost.

[Garamore]

The reason is on the 2 order win they cap bo’s and the 8 they lose they run in one giant meatball.

[Omegus]

Not done LOTD in a long time, but I wonder if order has been trying to replicate the FMJ+zerg blob without realising that the FMJ+zerg blob "worked" because there were enough destro ignoring it completely and instead were ensuring objectives were capped/re-capped, NPC patrols were dealt with, etc, while order got distracted by the big red ball and raged.

I was in one of the WBs playing the objective game and I think everyone in that WB would admit that at times it was a bit dull, but focusing on the objectives and calling out captures/movement in region chat got the job done while Brogun lead a big blob up to the order area. If all of destro had followed that blob, destro would've lost LOTD.

[lumpi33]

The reason is on the 2 order win they cap bo’s and the 8 they lose they run in one giant meatball.

causality - cause and effect. If order isn't able to kill the HoB zerg (cause) they are sticking together (effect)

[lumpi33]

I was in one of the WBs playing the objective game and I think everyone in that WB would admit that at times it was a bit dull, but focusing on the objectives and calling out captures/movement in region chat got the job done while Brogun lead a big blob up to the order area. If all of destro had followed that blob, destro would've lost LOTD.

With an almost 2:1 kill ratio for destro they wouldn't have lost, no matter what. Destro pushed Order all the way to their warcamp and even there they weren't able to push back.

You can have the best strategy of all... if you can't hold and can't kill you won't win.

[Garamore]

By then though it was over and a lot of order had left to pve a keep. Earlier kills are pretty even.

[JohnnyWayne]

Fits perfectly, as destro seem to enjoy the PvE game in lotd. So everyone was doing PvE at that point. Mission accomplished devs.