Return of Reckoning

Current Situation

When you try to log out, currently there is a server-side enforced wait of 20 seconds before the game gracefully logs you off. While I can see the purpose of it if you are currently PVP flagged to prevent you from logging out in the PVP lakes before you get hit (once you are hit you are "in combat" and cannot log out at all), at all other times it serves little-to-no purpose and is just an excessive wait for the sake of waiting. I am aware that the live game had a 20 second log-out timer as well, and it was bad then too.

Proposal

Please reduce the log-out delay timer from 20 seconds to 3 seconds if the player is not currently flagged for PVP/RVR. The 3 seconds provides a small grace period for players to cancel logging out if they pressed the log-out button by accident. It can't be abused for people doing PVP/RVR as even if they are not currently in combat they are still flagged for PVP/RVR and so will have the 20 second wait timer.

Additionally, if this is implemented then please change the log-out timer message displayed to people who are flagged for PVP/RVR to explicitly state that the longer timer is because they are flagged for PVP. Something like:

"As you are flagged for PVP/RVR, you will finish logging out in 20 seconds."
"As you are flagged for PVP/RVR, you will finish logging out in 15 seconds."
"As you are flagged for PVP/RVR, you will finish logging out in 10 seconds."
"As you are flagged for PVP/RVR, you will finish logging out in 5 seconds."

And if not flagged, then a single message like "You will finish logging out in 3 seconds" will suffice.

Why not just Alt-F4 if you want to logout quickly in PvE?

I must admit that the 20sec delay doesn't seem to have any purpose outside of RvR lakes

Gangan wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:49 pm Why not just Alt-F4 if you want to logout quickly in PvE?

I must admit that the 20sec delay doesn't seem to have any purpose outside of RvR lakes

It's to give you ample time to contemplate the mistake you're making by returning to "Real Life".

In all seriousness though I do support this, maybe increase it to 5s though from 3s.

nice QoL change, i support that

Gangan wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:49 pm Why not just Alt-F4 if you want to logout quickly in PvE?

I must admit that the 20sec delay doesn't seem to have any purpose outside of RvR lakes

Alt+F4 does nothing . There is always the option to force-crash the client from the Windows Task Manager, but it's a bit drastic to get around a mostly-pointless 20 second timer in PvE or safe zones like an un-sieged city.

Alt+f4 works here under linux at least, but yeah. Would be nice to have instant logout if you are triggering the "rested" in warcamps or cities.

Btw, force crashing the client doesn't help at all when you are trying to switch toons. Relogging to swap characters is really the only time I give a **** about the 20s timer.

The server that shall not be named had an instant logout/close so I know it's possible, I just have no idea if there is a legitimate reason for the 20s timer.

xpander wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:56 pm Would be nice to have instant logout if you are triggering the "rested" in warcamps or cities.

+1 for instant in rested areas (rested and out of combat, if it's possible to be both at the same time)