Some kind of joke ?

[Evilspinnre]

Funny thing is, most people who get the ranked ring, pretty much never use it. Why? Because their character is "Done", in BiS gear, nothing to achieve anymore. So they either quit all together or reroll a new character.

Same thing happened when they made sov gear accessible outside city.

[Asderas27]

never got a chance. and as i've said on forums previously. if i wanted to play competitive 5v5 mmo i'd be playing gw2 right now. if i wanted to play competitive fast paced action i'd be playing cs. if i wanted to play competitive fast paced strategy i'd play dota2. all of the games i mentioned are 1) faster than WAR 2) more balanced and competitive.

And if I wanted to zerg I would go play Starcraft.
Thank you.

You're kinda missing the point and just making this thread even more hilarious.

The core of this game are literally delusional, yet hold the power of game direction, RvR flow/changes, and gear progression. As such, anyone that disagrees needs to understand its a .PRIVATE. SERVER. The small delusional core of who the server is for. Who keep it running through spending their own resources which somewhat genuinely entitles them to this. The people that have, consequently, the power to make a 6V6 'skill based' game mode that uses your actual gear AND has gear rewards in what was an RVR game*. The server will always benefit them (cross realming no penalty. Doesn't facilitate experienced groups evening up campaign RvR. Only helps to farm on the zergiest side. Irony). A core that to whom this word 'zerg' has only negative connotations such is the elitism that breeds in this environment. RoR hides it well, but all the signs are there. Hence the prices.

The grind is homogenised to the extent its lost all flavour, has little meaning, is PURELY a means to an end rather than being a goal in that people will forego content, rvr/pvp fights, items, to reach that end rather than play the game, such is the ingame mentality thats filtered down through the playerbase now. As expected, it is yet anothe way that keeps the average player down so that what few premades there are can switch to Destro, farm players that aren't even buying RvR sets now, while avoiding each other. So much wrong with this. So ironic how smallscale 6v6 is the focus of the 'dark' server yet most participants avoid it in favor to hide their SoV gear. This is why Order is generally so bad outside of gwb/guildgrp's. There's no reasonto try to improve because Destro crossrealmers will farm the **** out of them with their SoV sets they have currency for 20 times. Noone wants to practice vs 'the best' in Scs and rvr isn't conducive to this as it once was. Easier on destro because of the skill/gear disparity among imo 70% of the caasual playerbase. So the server stagnates and its reflected in the rvr capability of the realms. Stagnate until an entire guild decde to swap. Which just does the same to the other realm. No realm pride to defend yourselves, no reason to fight for your names, crossrealmer premades just swap and avoid each other or hedge their bets because why actually play to your detriment and challange yourselves. If they can even be bothered to field a 6man coordinating each tactic slot nowadays. The toxic attitude is that 'we are premade, you do not deserve anything' is delusional. Totally. Crossrealm guilds upset balance in the long run better than solve it. The lock needs to be brought back and last A WEEK MINIMUM. The game is a farming simulator as a result and people don't even know they're being farmed rather than playing. It's okay, do what you gotta do, but put SOME restrictions on it for the White Dwarfs sake. It is not okay to switch realms for every fort, regardless of what you put into the server.

Ranked and the currency situation is a result of the delusion and endemic elitism found at the servers core. This isnt the sprawling rvr of WAR its 6v6 crossrealm keep simulator. Once you realise this, it gets easier.

*That noone outside of what I am going to estimate was was 40 people or less actually wanted. An RvR game that was inherently built around the exploitation and manipulation of ''zergs' by small groups, outnumbered but never outgunned (the skills of which not only have been forgotten, but extinguished). And casual, normal, average players wanting to Waaagh against these groups and each other (who can barely keyboard turn themselves to run away nowdays let alone understand the nuance of movement in this game. Even 'premades'. Theres no reason to try to show people what can be done, they think they know. Its sad. A

No.

[Martok]

you "feel" that this price is "fair" because of "sacrifice" of people that played the game mode behind which gear was gated? rip this game then. just shut it all down.

Other than the first two words the entire post you quoted was crafted as satire. I do that, from time to time.

My central point was I could understand why the jewel was priced so expensively, as a nod to that group of players who fought through Ranked to get theirs. I based that on a similar experience many of us went through back when Conqueror Gear was first introduced. The stuff was hard to get initially, requiring actual dedication to game-related task.

Now Conq gear is easier to get than a cold. Which, for those of us who suffered the initial grind, is understandable but still kinda sucks.

[nebelwerfer]

Funny thing is, most people who get the ranked ring, pretty much never use it. Why? Because their character is "Done", in BiS gear, nothing to achieve anymore. So they either quit all together or reroll a new character.

Same thing happened when they made sov gear accessible outside city.

sad and many such cases

i think and i thought this for a long time - the solution is to make the currency account-bound because you won't need to play your shitty geared alt to gear him anymore.. Im pretty sure this will increase the quality of the game because when free to do so, more people will play what is needed not what they selfishly want to gear at that time.

[Talladego]

i think and i thought this for a long time - the solution is to make the currency account-bound because you won't need to play your shitty geared alt to gear him anymore.. Im pretty sure this will increase the quality of the game because when free to do so, more people will play what is needed not what they selfishly want to gear at that time.

Agreed.
This would give us more freedom to play whatever we enjoy/need and still make meaningful progress.

[wargrimnir]

This would also have the side effect of even more strictly enforcing meta classes. You might make gear progress on characters, but what's the point if there isn't an opportunity to play them?

[rejndjer]

you "feel" that this price is "fair" because of "sacrifice" of people that played the game mode behind which gear was gated? rip this game then. just shut it all down.

Other than the first two words the entire post you quoted was crafted as satire. I do that, from time to time.

My central point was I could understand why the jewel was priced so expensively, as a nod to that group of players who fought through Ranked to get theirs. I based that on a similar experience many of us went through back when Conqueror Gear was first introduced. The stuff was hard to get initially, requiring actual dedication to game-related task.

Now Conq gear is easier to get than a cold. Which, for those of us who suffered the initial grind, is understandable but still kinda sucks.

fair point.

i haven't played back then, but if i understood you correctly, conqs was end-gear then? :S idk what "tasks" were needed to get it, but it couldnt have been harder than getting sov today?

still, we can keep discussing what is "fair", but imo we should be discussing what is "good" for the game. i understand that a lot of you older players here that have played these old grind mmos think that grind here is super ez, but trust me, times have changed, and if you dont wanna see these new players quitting once they hit r40, you shouldnt make it so TIME-CONSUMING to reach the playable set (which on dps classes is invader). you keep forgetting that these new players are coming up against you veteran players in your sov chars. were you playing against people in sov when you couldnt even afford conqs as fresh r40?

[nebelwerfer]

This would also have the side effect of even more strictly enforcing meta classes. You might make gear progress on characters, but what's the point if there isn't an opportunity to play them?

The game is casual enough for non-meta strats to be viable, and several non-meta classes have specs that can make them exceed in areas they are not designed for if they are well geared and supported.

Challenging the meta is lots of fun. Lowering the bar to do so is imo good.

[rejndjer]

This would also have the side effect of even more strictly enforcing meta classes. You might make gear progress on characters, but what's the point if there isn't an opportunity to play them?

and it would also give even more advantage to old players, because they can now start new character, and have 10k crests in reserve ready for it. we all know how many people were bragging that they have sov and thousands of crests leftover when "one currency patch" went live.

[joroth]

So i come back after some time and I found u merge all coins in one currency and its awesome change but some stuff just dont make sense like :



I mean really ? 9999 coins for the ring....its like full Sovereign set like wtf guys, i know lot of ppl will write go PVE get ur sentinel ring etc....
....well if u guys did not notice PVE extremely suck in WAR (get group etc) and lot of ppl playing it cuz of PVP,RVR like me ...

So I suggest u guys change orice or implement some accessory from RVR so i can implement my stalwart wich i have 5 pieces atm.....ty best regards...

Think this post has been derailed a bit. Hes asking for a ring which he can also use stalward stones. Why isn't this a thing for vanq tier? Even if its a **** stat ring with a stalward stone option.