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Re: Let the players play how they want, its a game

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:01 pm
by Omegus
Sinisterror wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:52 pmBack on live where your side was getting farmed in Sc's you could leave the grps, sneak away and get few solo kills, you could get HIGHESTA renown in that sc, probably would be. That is how it should be. That is Risk Reward not " I DONT LIKE THIS KIND OF PLAY BECAUSE IN MY MIND IT MEANS THIS AND ONLY THIS THING "< This huge RoR attitude and problem.
When the objective of the scenario is to get 500 points to win, is sneaking away for a few solo kills to get big renown something you would want to encourage? And did that kill actually make any difference if the attacker died seconds later and the victim is insta-ressed?

For open rvr which is far more of a sandbox fine, but for scenarios I am more than happy with stricter rules that encourage or force people to work together to achieve in an objective-based game mode without cirvumventing loot-sharing systems (either live or ROR, and before this post kicks off I'm not accusing anyone here of intentionally trying to game the loot system so chill).

Re: Let the players play how they want, its a game

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:08 pm
by Sinisterror
Omegus wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:01 pm
Sinisterror wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:52 pmBack on live where your side was getting farmed in Sc's you could leave the grps, sneak away and get few solo kills, you could get HIGHESTA renown in that sc, probably would be. That is how it should be. That is Risk Reward not " I DONT LIKE THIS KIND OF PLAY BECAUSE IN MY MIND IT MEANS THIS AND ONLY THIS THING "< This huge RoR attitude and problem.
When the objective of the scenario is to get 500 points to win, is sneaking away for a few solo kills to get big renown something you would want to encourage? And did that kill actually make any difference if the attacker died seconds later and the victim is insta-ressed?

For open rvr which is far more of a sandbox fine, but for scenarios I am more than happy with stricter rules that encourage or force people to work together to achieve in an objective-based game mode without cirvumventing loot-sharing systems (either live or ROR, and before this post kicks off I'm not accusing anyone here of intentionally trying to game the loot system so chill).
It is definetely better to have that option as a choice vs take a 10 min beating where you cant do ANYTHING. If you do that in RoR you dont get anything if you have no objective points which is just.... THis happened hundreds of times, sometimes it turned to me vs 1 dueling while rest of his team farms my team in my spawn and i kill this dude few times. Most of the time i at least got nice amount of renown from doing PvP. Point of Sc's is to do PvP and kills should always mean more than running flags:E Only place i like flags is Keeps Live and Mobs was In Battlefield objectives, and then you r click resource carrier on his way=)

This now is just Nascaring Our lifes away.

Re: Let the players play how they want, its a game

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:43 pm
by BluIzLucky
Yeah, from what I can tell xp/rr/loot in SC is counted as a WB, you'll get trickles of rr from all kills but big ticks/loot are only for big dps.

So, by going solo you get bigger rewards as dps, but it's taken from "your team" as a single dps will easily represent +50% of party dmg, and you'll likely still get a decent chunk of the heals and support you need, as letting you die makes winning less likely..

So.. you join group based content, make your team overall worse and reduce their rewards, just to give yourself more..

If not to be selfish, why do you solo in SC? You can stay in your party and play 100% the same way.
And sneaking away to do 1v1 is only possible when your team takes the attention of most of the enemy..

If we want to compare to PvE.. this is like joining a team to kill a lair boss as dps then leaving party before kill to steal all the loot because you did the most dmg and then complaining that you can't play how you want when they change pve loot rules to prevent that :lol:

If devs are reading, please remove reward for selfish duos too (if it isn't already), thanks

Re: Let the players play how they want, its a game

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:25 pm
by Garamore
I'd go further and ban them...

Scens are not a solo game mode

Re: Let the players play how they want, its a game

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:30 pm
by ReBiff
Garamore wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:25 pm I'd go further and ban them...

Scens are not a solo game mode

these are the peak RoR responses i thought id get, i wonder why the server is dead lol, we know u love chasing down people 24v1 garamore and runnin from fair fights, but come on xD who hurt you so bad

Re: Let the players play how they want, its a game

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:45 am
by lemao
Why on earth would you join a solo sc party when the sc starts instead of filling a group like everyone else does ??? If you PURELY want to play solo go run around in RVR. Also arent you that guy who mostly made negative videos abour ror on your yt channel ? Might aswell just quit the game if you dont like it instead of coming back every 6 months and complain about stuff literally nobody else complains about.

Re: Let the players play how they want, its a game

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:54 am
by Minisynn
Just when I thought it wasn't possible for Rebiff to create something even more hilariously stupid to cry about, he cries about the fact that the game discourages people from sitting in lone parties in SCs which serves literally no purpose except wanting to be difficult at the very best, and actively trying to disadvantage your own team at worst... My only regret is that I've seen enough of your videos that I even read this in your painfully droll voice

Re: Let the players play how they want, its a game

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:54 am
by ReBiff
Minisynn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:54 am Just when I thought it wasn't possible for Rebiff to create something even more hilariously stupid to cry about, he cries about the fact that the game discourages people from sitting in lone parties in SCs which serves literally no purpose except wanting to be difficult at the very best, and actively trying to disadvantage your own team at worst... My only regret is that I've seen enough of your videos that I even read this in your painfully droll voice
since you want to make it personal, atleast people watch my videos <3 unlike a certain someone lol

Re: Let the players play how they want, its a game

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:04 am
by vanjelis
ReBiff wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:53 pm Why is it that in scenarios if you're in a solo party you get 0 exp 0 renown
Good.

Maybe this isn't the game for you. "Let them play how they want" is in your case letting you actively detriment your team. This is foremost a team game. There is no solo content to progress passed R40. Just because you can solo in the lakes doesn't make that content. You still rely on the rest of your faction to flip zones which is actual content.

You're probably also one of those people who calls for Bloodlord to be available with tokens so you can solo it. It's a team game dude, if that's not your thing then move elsewhere.

Re: Let the players play how they want, its a game

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:08 am
by ReBiff
vanjelis wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:04 am
ReBiff wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:53 pm Why is it that in scenarios if you're in a solo party you get 0 exp 0 renown
Good.

Maybe this isn't the game for you. "Let them play how they want" is in your case letting you actively detriment your team. This is foremost a team game. There is no solo content to progress passed R40. Just because you can solo in the lakes doesn't make that content. You still rely on the rest of your faction to flip zones which is actual content.

You're probably also one of those people who calls for Bloodlord to be available with tokens so you can solo it. It's a team game dude, if that's not your thing then move elsewhere.
i like these random assumptions, who hurt you, and as for the bloodlord thing no. i like PVE the way it is currently, and i actively dispute people that want it to be bought with tokens <3