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[Slayer] Class Information WiP

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:36 pm
by Novamett

Re: [Slayer] Class Information WiP

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:49 pm
by nocturnalguest
And whats the actual purpose for this?
I'd understand if you'd test out stats&mastery scalers and modifiers or other crucial technical information that is not directly displayed in-game or like add exact avoidance values for M1's etc. Dont mean to offend you but copying widely available data seems like a waste of efforts to me.

P.S. fancy tho

Re: [Slayer] Class Information WiP

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:27 pm
by Novamett
nocturnalguest wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:49 pm And whats the actual purpose for this?
I'd understand if you'd test out stats&mastery scalers and modifiers or other crucial technical information that is not directly displayed in-game or like add exact avoidance values for M1's etc. Dont mean to offend you but copying widely available data seems like a waste of efforts to me.

P.S. fancy tho
Easier to access information for comparing. After meeting a personal need I thought others stumbling upon it might find it useful.

I appreciate your concern though.

Re: [Slayer] Class Information WiP

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:03 pm
by nocturnalguest
I see, well to each his own i guess. Here is a small piece of advice - to compare abilities (e.g. dmging ones) you need following parameters:
- base dmg
- how they scale with main stat (check dmg on in game tooltip and on dummies for example with pot and without)
- how they scale with amount of mastery points into appropriate tree (like with 0 points, then with required amount of points to get ability in case its specable and finally with full mastery points)
- other situational parameters (cd, duration, condition, dmg type etc)
Accounting those parameters above would be proper comparison. Rest is definitely not proper comparison.

Thanks for sharing anyways. Good luck in your research

P.S. oh and just in case take a look here
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/

Re: [Slayer] Class Information WiP

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:17 pm
by Novamett
nocturnalguest wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:03 pm I see, well to each his own i guess. Here is a small piece of advice - to compare abilities (e.g. dmging ones) you need following parameters:
- base dmg
- how they scale with main stat (check dmg on in game tooltip and on dummies for example with pot and without)
- how they scale with amount of mastery points into appropriate tree (like with 0 points, then with required amount of points to get ability in case its specable and finally with full mastery points)
- other situational parameters (cd, duration, condition, dmg type etc)
Accounting those parameters above would be proper comparison. Rest is definitely not proper comparison.

Thanks for sharing anyways. Good luck in your research

P.S. oh and just in case take a look here
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/
This could be an overcomplicated spreadsheet but it's not. Most understand how stats scale with things. This is more in honor of the fundamental mechanics of the classes. The enjoyment of the game starts to die when you have to start number crunching.

"P.S. oh and just in case take a look here"
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/

P.S. I am familiar with the website you referenced. You have to mouse over each icon. Not really that efficient for comparing.

Re: [Slayer] Class Information WiP

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:40 pm
by nocturnalguest
Novamett wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:17 pm Most understand how stats scale with things.
Nah, totally the opposite. Also alot of skills are scaled uniquely (for example tanks 2h channels) and this info is not shared anywhere, so one has to do the tests and figure for themselves.

Re: [Slayer] Class Information WiP

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:52 pm
by Novamett
nocturnalguest wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:40 pm
Novamett wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:17 pm Most understand how stats scale with things.
Nah, totally the opposite. Also alot of skills are scaled uniquely (for example tanks 2h channels) and this info is not shared anywhere, so one has to do the tests and figure for themselves.
It's not that serious slime

Re: [Slayer] Class Information WiP

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:36 pm
by Scottx125
Cool, but we have a career builder with all this info.. A guide would be better.

Re: [Slayer] Class Information WiP

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:57 pm
by Novamett
https://youtu.be/A8_5fPlfSek

Forum posting be like

"woah, very nice.."
"look at that"
"typed up the doc yesterday,"
"bad formatting"
"that's scaled, and the percentages are something called '2h channels'"

Re: [Slayer] Class Information WiP

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:48 pm
by Kpi
Close combat tactic is missing in the document ;)