[Marauder] Petition to make GI (Growing Instability) tactic baseline

[Sofong]

You are all missing some points here:

This is a group based game, and beside pure burst, armor debuff and outgoing healdebuff and pull the lion brings nothing). The marauder on the other hand debuffs armor, toughness, wounds and healing on the target, has a pull as well and is capable of removing aps and decreasing the amount of ap reg.

So... yes the lion is more on the epeen side of the table. While the marauder brings the whole group in the position to make influential damage to a target.

The issue is other dps classes doing x2 more damage than mara without any debuff. Mara cannot do proper damage even after applied all debuffs.

You are aware that it is not all about doing the damage, but also providing the possibility to do the damage and to use it properly.

- The Marauder reduces the damage he needs on a single target with lifedebuff
- The Marauder reduces the damage that is needed to kill it's target while under heal with healdebuff
- As soon as a mara is not alone, EVERY guy hitting his target benefits from the debuffs a marauder applies, it's not about the damage you deal, but the damage you enable others to do.

true my bg do about the same debuffs and be 3x tankier and bring more protection and CCs to the grp.

[Everdin]

The issue is other dps classes doing x2 more damage than mara without any debuff. Mara cannot do proper damage even after applied all debuffs.

You are aware that it is not all about doing the damage, but also providing the possibility to do the damage and to use it properly.

- The Marauder reduces the damage he needs on a single target with lifedebuff
- The Marauder reduces the damage that is needed to kill it's target while under heal with healdebuff
- As soon as a mara is not alone, EVERY guy hitting his target benefits from the debuffs a marauder applies, it's not about the damage you deal, but the damage you enable others to do.

true my bg do about the same debuffs and be 3x tankier and bring more protection and CCs to the grp.

And, doing less damage then the marauder

[Sofong]

You are aware that it is not all about doing the damage, but also providing the possibility to do the damage and to use it properly.

- The Marauder reduces the damage he needs on a single target with lifedebuff
- The Marauder reduces the damage that is needed to kill it's target while under heal with healdebuff
- As soon as a mara is not alone, EVERY guy hitting his target benefits from the debuffs a marauder applies, it's not about the damage you deal, but the damage you enable others to do.

true my bg do about the same debuffs and be 3x tankier and bring more protection and CCs to the grp.

And, doing less damage then the marauder

its not all about dmg?

[Everdin]

It's about what you bring into a fight:

Lion: Damage
Marauder: Damage + Utility
BG: Utility + suvivability

[Dajciekrwi]

It's about what you bring into a fight:

Lion: Damage
Marauder: Damage + Utility
BG: Utility + suvivability

So - mrauder: crap damage + and crap utility, and shiit in general.

[Everdin]

The "crap utility" is what makes the marauder one of the most interesting classes in the game, if you are not able to use it, maybe the class itself isn't the problem

[normanis]

mara mechanics are similar to shadow warrior. maby shadow warrior melle build need also 50% armor pent?
there was discuss about maras aoe improvemt far past. remove self heal/red inc armor pent for u ,to damage every 4th hit . u have now heal every time u hit change it to damage target (second savage hand buff or wl tth buff) if maras whant self heal sacrefice tactic slot for it

[Alubert]

Marauder is well-balanced and better not to touch it.
Generally mdps like WE/Mara/WL/WH/aSW are ok.
The only thing that needs to be improved is mSH so that it has decent ST dmg.
Remove GTDC choppa ability and give it something that can compete with SL ID.
Nerf Rampage or remove this ability from the game.
I will write about SM right away because it can sometimes be called mdps also.
When will somebody come to their senses and finally do something about this WoDS?

[normanis]

how about we balance this first?

Spoiler:

Look at this city result from yesterday. All pro players and a very close round:

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... e58ce61314

Do you see the Mara in first place that did 2 Mios more than the Slayer? Mara is rr73 (no sov obviously) and Slayer rr82 (both were champs in stage3).

Rampage overpowered and Mara needs damage buff? Yeah sure... what are you smoking?

buff choppa 6th place and msquig is 4th place. while 2 mares take medals gold and bronze. i expected slayer was top wis rampage (seems he forgot rampage press)

[lemao]

Lets look on beloved child of Developers called KILLBOARD - February Killers on Destro side 3 Choppas, One Sorc, on Order - 2 WL, 3 WH, 1 SL...., so where on monthly scoreboard is Garamar from Hand of Blood, or Theoddone from Exodus?.
Maybe they dont know how to play?? Meybe this genius GEGGA should train them?

Killboard shows how flat is the choose for Destro, wanna kill - choose choppa, so Wachlarz have right - Buff Choppa

My IQ just shrunk (again).