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How much crit can AM stack?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:53 am
by leftside
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I'm asking out of ignorance---is it truly this high?
I have around 250 initiative and full futile strikes.

Re: How much crit can AM stack?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:49 am
by Sulorie
Over 40 and below 50 % unless a knight buffs you but we don't know what debuffs you had.
Your mitigation is quite good.

Re: How much crit can AM stack?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:21 am
by Absinth
leftside wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:53 am I have around 250 initiative and full futile strikes.
Thats still can get easily debuffed to range where you can get critted.
For example just have a borc/sm steal 120 of your initiative and you are becoming wet noodle.
(250-120=130, 15 below the amount to zero the crits, just slot a single +24 init tali, they are pretty cheap)
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Not to mention skills that always crit but i think all of them have some sort of cd that does not make them spammable

Re: How much crit can AM stack?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:27 am
by Ruin
to ad to it, pls remeber that AM pudle debufs ini.

Re: How much crit can AM stack?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:37 am
by Absinth
Ruin wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:27 am to ad to it, pls remeber that AM pudle debufs ini.
AM puddle still should let him have zeroed crits, he had to have something else also on him.

Re: How much crit can AM stack?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:23 am
by Everdin
AM has "+ 7% chance to get critical hit on the target" at 7 pieces Souvereign

Re: How much crit can AM stack?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:35 am
by Ruin
Absinth wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:37 am
Ruin wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:27 am to ad to it, pls remeber that AM pudle debufs ini.
AM puddle still should let him have zeroed crits, he had to have something else also on him.
pls remeber that having 0% CTBC dosen't mean you can't get crits, it just means you dont give your opponend adition chances, so if AM have 40% ctit of its own, you will still get Critted.

Re: How much crit can AM stack?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:48 am
by Absinth
Ruin wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:35 am
Absinth wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:37 am
Ruin wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:27 am to ad to it, pls remeber that AM pudle debufs ini.
AM puddle still should let him have zeroed crits, he had to have something else also on him.
pls remeber that having 0% CTBC dosen't mean you can't get crits, it just means you dont give your opponend adition chances, so if AM have 40% ctit of its own, you will still get Critted.
he still should have it at like -3% causing them to be not this common. Well still its just a random chance maybe its just lucky AM with fully stacked crit chance.

Re: How much crit can AM stack?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:29 pm
by leftside
Sulorie wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:49 am Over 40 and below 50 % unless a knight buffs you but we don't know what debuffs you had.
Your mitigation is quite good.
Thanks for the help, I didn't realize they could get so much.
Do AM typically slot their disrupt-reduction talent?

Re: How much crit can AM stack?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:13 pm
by Scottx125
Absinth wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:48 am
Ruin wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:35 am
Absinth wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:37 am

AM puddle still should let him have zeroed crits, he had to have something else also on him.
pls remeber that having 0% CTBC dosen't mean you can't get crits, it just means you dont give your opponend adition chances, so if AM have 40% ctit of its own, you will still get Critted.
he still should have it at like -3% causing them to be not this common. Well still its just a random chance maybe its just lucky AM with fully stacked crit chance.
Even with full FS and reduce crit lini with 250 ini. You'll only be at around -30%(total) from your initial ~15%. That means if your enemy has 40% crit chance. They'll still crit you 25% of the time.. Afaik, with max reduce crit, there's no way to completely avoid getting crit by a class that builds pure crit. Main reason for that is due to the fact all classes have a chance to be crit at around 15%.