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wp or doc dps specs

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:48 pm
by hordak774
Who is stronger and what stronger aa hit duals or 2h ?

Re: wp or doc dps specs

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:25 pm
by Scottx125
DoK is better afaik. But both DPS specs don't bring much tbh.

Re: wp or doc dps specs

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:00 pm
by Lisutaris
Depends on your definition of "stronger" .... 2 handed weapons will hit stronger but less frequently because of lower attack speed.
Therefore, burst wise, 2h can be better in some situations. Dual wielding has better proc synergy because of faster attack speed.

WP and DoK are pretty well mirrored, so the difference isnt that huge. DPS spec on those classes get useful and strong with endgame equipment. Answer is simple, as you dont really have gapcloser or escape skills ... better equipment = more armor, mor def stats, more survival and less instant exploding :) Both dont have access to sov dmg sets, so you will lack some item lvls, gear wise, vs pure dps classes.
I wouldnt say dps spec on WP or DoK is bad because you can hit 1k+ single target dmg on the target dummy with decent RR and equip. But with same gear and renown rank ... a pure dps class should be able to outdmg you. Especially on aoe dmg.

Re: wp or doc dps specs

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:48 pm
by mekal
if youre going actual pure dps wp beats dok hands down wp has higher damage ceiling and 100% ranged snare (both classes biggest weakness)

dok used to absolutely trump wp in burst but with the changes that happened back in like 2019/2020 dok is simply a gimped version

Re: wp or doc dps specs

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:07 am
by Scottx125
Lisutaris wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:00 pm Depends on your definition of "stronger" .... 2 handed weapons will hit stronger but less frequently because of lower attack speed.
Therefore, burst wise, 2h can be better in some situations. Dual wielding has better proc synergy because of faster attack speed.

WP and DoK are pretty well mirrored, so the difference isnt that huge. DPS spec on those classes get useful and strong with endgame equipment. Answer is simple, as you dont really have gapcloser or escape skills ... better equipment = more armor, mor def stats, more survival and less instant exploding :) Both dont have access to sov dmg sets, so you will lack some item lvls, gear wise, vs pure dps classes.
I wouldnt say dps spec on WP or DoK is bad because you can hit 1k+ single target dmg on the target dummy with decent RR and equip. But with same gear and renown rank ... a pure dps class should be able to outdmg you. Especially on aoe dmg.
You can barely Crit 1.2k with BiS. It's poo :/.

Re: wp or doc dps specs

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:15 am
by Endari
mekal wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:48 pm if youre going actual pure dps wp beats dok hands down wp has higher damage ceiling and 100% ranged snare (both classes biggest weakness)

dok used to absolutely trump wp in burst but with the changes that happened back in like 2019/2020 dok is simply a gimped version
Lol no! Ranged snare was removed and as other poster said maybe burst could be higher on wp but the dok has more dps abilities to make up for it. A single parry/dodge/block and your "burst" is gone on the wp, and the wp has no pillage essence equivalent so can be easily starved of rf unlike the dok who just keeps pumping out se.

Re: wp or doc dps specs

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:13 am
by Vri
The last time i was in a city...2-3 years ago, we had a shield dok that pumped but i have not kept track of the spec at all.

Re: wp or doc dps specs

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:29 am
by anarchypark
Dual-wielding DoK have two possible builds.

1. One build maintains a balance between life tapping and DPS for 1v1 encounters.
Against DPS WP, I'd estimate a 50% win/loss ratio, depending on the player's skill and the luck factor involving critical hits and defense.
Struggles against 2h tanks with high avoidance and self heal.

2. The alternative build forsakes healing, even life tapping, focusing solely on pure DPS.
It focuses on auto-attacks and procs with a rapid attack speed, aiming for rear attacks to penetrate armor.
This build provides heal debuffs and snares for the group, capable of burning target's AP.
Similar to other mDPS, it heavily relies on support.

Re: wp or doc dps specs

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:05 am
by hordak774
wp i think more have survivability than doc, doc has more dps abilities