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Tone down shaman

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:21 pm
by salazarn
Common knowledge they are too strong.

The common reply is AM is too strong so its balanced. But it isn't. The speed buff/ 240 toughness hot/ automatic detaunt is superior and any AM would trade their extra dot or aoe or whatever for these.

IMO the problem probably lies not in the classes but the core scaling issues of the game. One namely is detaunt being too strong and skewed towards healer classes who can just keep it up ad infinitum. The second factor is that the base healing values seem high enough that you don't need to stack willpower to be an effective healer, meaning dotshams can just be tanky as hell with their heals while stacking int and then presumable toughness or anticrit.

You solve that core scaling issue the actual kit of shams and AMs is far more manageable and would need no tweaking. But atm they are overtuned and everyone knows it who roams.

Re: Tone down shaman

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:47 pm
by Omegus
Is this a 1v1 complaint by any chance?

Re: Tone down shaman

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:15 pm
by lemao
skill issue

Re: Tone down shaman

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:20 pm
by salazarn
lemao wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:15 pmskill issue
Lot of skilled shaman out there I suppose. mabe they are just better players than everyone else.

Re: Tone down shaman

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:47 pm
by Ysaran
Omegus wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:47 pm Is this a 1v1 complaint by any chance?
Yes It is

Re: Tone down shaman

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:37 pm
by lemao
salazarn wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:20 pm
lemao wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:15 pmskill issue
Lot of skilled shaman out there I suppose. mabe they are just better players than everyone else.
Not everyone else, but maybe you.

Re: Tone down shaman

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:41 pm
by Hazmy
Hey there,

Please try to keep it civil and respectful towards other players.

Re: Tone down shaman

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:47 pm
by jafh123
Omegus wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:47 pm Is this a 1v1 complaint by any chance?

Seems so. They are a solid class, but not overpowered, especially not in a 1v1 scenario.

Re: Tone down shaman

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:40 pm
by Speedyluck
so some wh fail to gank a shaman... wow great deal lets nerf all of them.

Re: Tone down shaman

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:29 pm
by aircanada
I think DPS shamans need more buffs imho, we need to deal with WLs , AMs and regen WHs it's rough out there.
-Fishstick