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Suggestion: Bringing back renown points for healing & guarding

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:22 pm
by Blorke
Hello,
as the title already says, this is a suggestion to bring back renown points regarding heals and guards.
The highes RR earners at the moment and at the time i started playing RoR again (Feb '24), are only the DPS classes. Especially when they are also dealing the death blows, they cash out big time. Playing as healer or a tank you will notice sooner or later, that you are always in the grace of DPS classes when it comes to gaining renown. In my opinion, there is a too big focus on DPS in general, judging by the statues in Citys (only DPS classes with highest renown earnings, kills etc.) and by the fact the a big chunk of players reaching RR80 were also DPS (yes, i checked many of them in armory :D). Even if you are playing your role correctly and are vital part of your group or warband, lacking enough or good DPS will also result in a lack of RR. I know that years back you would gain renown for healing and guarding/holding the line etc. This got removed, but bringing this mechanic back atleast for playing in groups and warbands + furfilling the role as healer or tank in said grp or wb (not for healing outside of your grps) would be a positive change for some more healthy gameplay.

Re: Suggestion: Bringing back renown points for healing & guarding

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:54 pm
by Culexus
+1 to this.

Support classes are generally considered less fun to play than dps, especially in PvP games, as killing stuff is just way more fun. Unless you really enjoys playing support classes it can feel like your're playing the game so another player can have all the fun and glory. The current system reinforces this by actively reducing renown gain for support classes doing their job compared to dps doing theirs, making them even less desirable to play. Good tanks and healers should be rewarded for their efforts the same way that dps are as without them dps can't do jack.

Re: Suggestion: Bringing back renown points for healing & guarding

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:04 pm
by Akalukz
I would go so far as to say that if you don't won't fix this then you should take away renown/drops from solo dps. If you want to force groups, then force groups. RIght now as a solo dps I can get a ton of renown and quite a few drops. As a solo healer/tank I get no drops and minimal renown. DPS get the cake and eat it too. Where healers/tanks are left with nothing. Can have a great healer or tank in a group, but dps sucks and you get squat.

Re: Suggestion: Bringing back renown points for healing & guarding

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:46 pm
by Natherul
This is not a suggestion but a bug.
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=22572

Re: Suggestion: Bringing back renown points for healing & guarding

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:23 pm
by Blorke
Natherul wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:46 pm This is not a suggestion but a bug.
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=22572
Good to see it being already reported and worked on. How are things regarding tanks? I haven't played for almost 2 yrs since i started a few months ago, so i'm not sure if gaining renown by tanking in general was removed or also effected by a bug.

Re: Suggestion: Bringing back renown points for healing & guarding

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:39 pm
by Natherul
Blorke wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:23 pm
Natherul wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:46 pm This is not a suggestion but a bug.
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=22572
Good to see it being already reported and worked on. How are things regarding tanks? I haven't played for almost 2 yrs since i started a few months ago, so i'm not sure if gaining renown by tanking in general was removed or also effected by a bug.
Currently its bugged in a sense that neither healers get any rewards for out of group kills nor do tanks with protection score.

Re: Suggestion: Bringing back renown points for healing & guarding

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:43 pm
by Bozzax
+1 to game were heals and tanks and proper play is rewarded instead of leaching the dps of your group.

Especially since a big portion of your abilities are non group

Re: Suggestion: Bringing back renown points for healing & guarding

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:51 pm
by Natherul
Im going to close the thread since its not a suggestion but an actual bug :)