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Wp dok dps channel garbage change maybe?

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:31 pm
by yoluigi
The dps spec for (dok,wp) the channel heal is garbage it breaks from nothing. Might as well remove the heal component for the wp 2h/dok dual weild dps spec.

Would be better off having sigmar radiance, transfer essence with a 5 second cooldown and give the channel somekind of buff/debuff

Wp could be a defence buff while casting it and dok an offencive buff. (or the same)
Defence Like absorb or +toughness, High Weapon skill stats to the defencive target (while channeling Both) And only work on a party member (what ever)
Offensive could be % parry debuff or high iniative debuff (Dok dont have an initiative debuff)
Or just remove the heal component and bring back tap heal with 5 seconds cooldown.

Soo many thing could make it more interested.

Because i've come back a bit and it's just useless compare to before. Would be better to have a garanted heal with more support abilities instead of a garbage heal channel that does not work anymore.
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Re: Wp dok dps channel garbage change maybe?

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:57 pm
by Uchoo
Channels, especially melee channels, do tend to break far more frequently since Cone of Fire was added back to the game. It's way too unforgiving imo, especially on ping.

It's interesting because a few years back, melee channels were changed to be MORE forgiving with range and CoF, which has now been reverted lol.

Re: Wp dok dps channel garbage change maybe?

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:38 pm
by F4llen4ngel
Its line of sight, cone of fire thingy, totally fine, as that channeled healing is OP as f. So if someone leaves your attack angle its interrupted and i think its good..

Re: Wp dok dps channel garbage change maybe?

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:39 am
by Zxul
F4llen4ngel wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:38 pm Its line of sight, cone of fire thingy, totally fine, as that channeled healing is OP as f. So if someone leaves your attack angle its interrupted and i think its good..
Problem is, with ror melee being you and opponent moving around nonstop at run speed, melee channels have become useless. On my chosen I untrained Relentless, currently its a waste of ability point. And dok/wp channel per posts here breaks even more.

Re: Wp dok dps channel garbage change maybe?

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:15 am
by F4llen4ngel
Zxul wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:39 am
F4llen4ngel wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:38 pm Its line of sight, cone of fire thingy, totally fine, as that channeled healing is OP as f. So if someone leaves your attack angle its interrupted and i think its good..
Problem is, with ror melee being you and opponent moving around nonstop at run speed, melee channels have become useless. On my chosen I untrained Relentless, currently its a waste of ability point. And dok/wp channel per posts here breaks even more.
Yes i know, on WE RA and BG 3 sec channel are also more difficult to use the full duration, but in my experience, you can move in a way that can support the channel not to be broken, but yea.

Re: Wp dok dps channel garbage change maybe?

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:52 am
by georgehabadasher
People have very different perspectives on this based on where they play. I think it's a good skill check for people on euro ping, but on NA and especially OCE ping it's only possible to channel if your target is champ challenged or knocked down.

Re: Wp dok dps channel garbage change maybe?

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:33 am
by Sever1n
Yep same for me, used aetherdance and swift strikes, they stop a lot when on the move. But i was always thinking that maybe its random interupts.

Re: Wp dok dps channel garbage change maybe?

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 1:37 pm
by yoluigi
Well if it's just a tank channel it dont mater much even if it get interrupted but for wp and dok it's a death sentence i can do decent on my ib channel even if it breaks who care i got heavy blow etc. But for wp/dok only way to heal is channel you dont have multiple option like grace where you go aoe heal,channel, sigmar radiance, Sigmar shield you can still get decent heal even if the heal is interrupted. Everybody that played dok/wp dps lately been saying it. Only people saying it does not matter "they" dont play the class. Might as well remove it and give us something else like sigmar radiance with 5 second cooldown.
Am in canada (NA ping) really sucks for any channels.

Re: Wp dok dps channel garbage change maybe?

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:39 pm
by TrainInVain
I thought the cone channel started when they were able to work with the server and started the balance changes. Several untended changes from that, so may not have been intentional?

Re: Wp dok dps channel garbage change maybe?

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:14 pm
by Phantasm
I play recently Dok and WP so I know how useless can be rend soul/divine assault.
Compared to AOE channels they total garbage. I feel like literally game or devs tells us to forget ST melee channels (except WE/WH which channels are 30ft range :) ) and just play 5 button melees with channels without target.