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[White Lion] Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"?
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:21 pm
by dvulikiy66
Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"? Coz I don't like pets, especially bugged) For ~50rr with Bloodlord set.
Re: [White Lion] Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"?
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:27 pm
by gersy
dvulikiy66 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:21 pm
Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"? Coz I don't like pets, especially bugged) For ~50rr with Bloodlord set.
Yes, the standard aoe build uses loner (and I guess since pets are extra bugged atm, it's probably functioning as a solid ST build too since you can cut channel early for instant autoattack to get big burst)
Build
i know you've said 50rr, but unfortunately most solid builds require 60/70 to get all the things they want. if you are in warband with this build and playing it as aoe, you could
drop cull the weak and dump the rest of your points in to left tree for damage amp on your aoe abilities until you're 60rr and can make the build proper.
Re: [White Lion] Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"?
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:17 pm
by Shima
Use bloodlord axe but try to get vanquisher set asap!
WL loner has no cc, only snare, and this break any build you wanna try but aoe spam. Worse than any other pet class, WL is totally dependant of it's pet. With it said, play on wbs only because you're free rp in case you wanna roam solo.
Re: [White Lion] Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"?
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:41 pm
by dvulikiy66
Thanks for your answers!
Re: [White Lion] Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"?
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:21 am
by Scragmuncher
Loner-hack and slash-flanking-tearing blade is the best WB spec for Wl onve you are geared. Change out tearing blade for Brute Force while you are still gearing. Balance your talis and rr points to get as much WS and Str as you can, but focus more on WS once you are at 800 or so str.
Re: [White Lion] Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"?
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:01 pm
by Tisaya
I'd say, avoid Cull the Weak in _any_ build. It's a trap. By 80's you should have around 40% crit chance and crit every other attack. One additional conditional crit per 10 seconds is nothing and not worth the mastery investments.
Re: [White Lion] Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"?
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:42 pm
by gersy
Tisaya wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:01 pm
I'd say, avoid Cull the Weak in _any_ build. It's a trap. By 80's you should have around 40% crit chance and crit every other attack. One additional conditional crit per 10 seconds is nothing and not worth the mastery investments.
advising players to "avoid" taking one of the hardest hitting abilities the class has is kind of wild, especially on the grounds of "you have a high crit chance in bis".
you don't take this ability because it's "one additional crit per 10 seconds". that isn't how the ability works. you take it because it has 2-3x base damage of all your other abilities, high strength scaling, scales incredibly well with the bountiful damage amps WL has access to like flanking/loner/primal fury and serves as a nigh-guaranteed crit execute ability (which btw is better with high crit from gear, making it actually guaranteed especially against bis healers who have 10-20% rctbc) to help finish off targets that are low.
Re: [White Lion] Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"?
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:45 am
by Shima
gersy wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:42 pm
Tisaya wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:01 pm
I'd say, avoid Cull the Weak in _any_ build. It's a trap. By 80's you should have around 40% crit chance and crit every other attack. One additional conditional crit per 10 seconds is nothing and not worth the mastery investments.
advising players to "avoid" taking one of the hardest hitting abilities the class has is kind of wild, especially on the grounds of "you have a high crit chance in bis".
you don't take this ability because it's "one additional crit per 10 seconds". that isn't how the ability works. you take it because it has 2-3x base damage of all your other abilities, high strength scaling, scales incredibly well with the bountiful damage amps WL has access to like flanking/loner/primal fury and serves as a nigh-guaranteed crit execute ability (which btw is better with high crit from gear, making it actually guaranteed especially against bis healers who have 10-20% rctbc) to help finish off targets that are low.
CtW was a good ability on live, I'm with Tsaya, avoid this today.
Re: [White Lion] Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"?
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:33 am
by influx07
I used to run 40% crit a few months ago. Tbh the crit dmg without pack synergy (bonus crit dmg) isnt that good. I feel investing in additional WS is granting far more overall kill pressure (wb vs wb) than my former crit build. Cull the weak is optional but fun.
Re: [White Lion] Are there any viable specs for "loner tactic"?
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:05 am
by Morradin
Tisaya wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:01 pm
I'd say, avoid Cull the Weak in _any_ build. It's a trap. By 80's you should have around 40% crit chance and crit every other attack. One additional conditional crit per 10 seconds is nothing and not worth the mastery investments.
How do you get near 40% crit by 80? I have 24% on my WL and count my self lucky.