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Bypass Armor/Resist

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 3:14 pm
by Bigirishgeneral
I'm looking for a class with abilities that completely bypass armor/resists. It seems the WH and SW are the best at this on Order.

Have I missed anyone?

Re: Bypass Armor/Resist

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:52 am
by Scragmuncher
Any dps can get super high armor pen, but SW and WL can pump this pretty high with tactics and the vanq/tri set bonus. I'm sure WH can do the same but I don't have much experience with that class.

Re: Bypass Armor/Resist

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:12 pm
by Shaoruij
Does the proc fron vanq and triumph Stack?! (SW)
That would be crazy good

Re: Bypass Armor/Resist

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:26 pm
by Ruin
Scragmuncher wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:52 am Any dps can get super high armor pen, but SW and WL can pump this pretty high with tactics and the vanq/tri set bonus. I'm sure WH can do the same but I don't have much experience with that class.
well WL can get nice armor pen for 2 skills with tactic. so it forces players to use those two.

Re: Bypass Armor/Resist

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 12:51 am
by Scragmuncher
Ruin wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:26 pm
Scragmuncher wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:52 am Any dps can get super high armor pen, but SW and WL can pump this pretty high with tactics and the vanq/tri set bonus. I'm sure WH can do the same but I don't have much experience with that class.
well WL can get nice armor pen for 2 skills with tactic. so it forces players to use those two.
Not really. In BIS gear you have about 600 or so WS, then you have the Triumphant proc on top which gets you to roughly 730, then ofc you have a great armor debuff.

Re: Bypass Armor/Resist

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:19 am
by Abauli
Do you give up strengh for WS? I see that you have WS jewelry, but you need to Invest much rr into WS to get into 750 range. So you can't cap STR. Is it worth it? Or only for WB? I play often Smallscale.

Re: Bypass Armor/Resist

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:57 am
by tefnaht
Abauli wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:19 am Do you give up strengh for WS? I see that you have WS jewelry, but you need to Invest much rr into WS to get into 750 range. So you can't cap STR. Is it worth it? Or only for WB? I play often Smallscale.
Depends on abilities thats you use, most AoE abilities have bad main stat scaling and good base damage. You can check it on https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/.

If you fight with bad\no armor debuff against people who use armor pots - in most cases for AoE better max out WS.
Whirling Axe - +100 str will give +8 damage, base damage 322+ weapon dps*1.3
Slashing Blade - +100 str will give +17 damage, base damage 150 + weapon dps*1.5

100 WS will give 7.5% ar.pen.

Re: Bypass Armor/Resist

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:15 am
by Abauli
OK, thank you. I play much against Single Target and have the big Armor pen Style. Autoattack makes a good amount of damage, too. So I think STR is better.