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Black Orc bugged/nerfed since live?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:41 pm
by goetn
Hey, Gibaxh here, returning player 80rr summit official, on return 46rr.
I have a question or feedback w/e. Both "Down ya go" and "Shut yer face" is supposed to still do their damage part vs unstoppable/reoccuring cc, this was a major part of a BOs way of putting pressure on other players as far as i played and remembered it. They atleast worked that way on live, any changelog about this or reason for the change? Aswell as "Loudmouth" is supposed to proc waaaaay more?
I built majorly around BO dots (ave another one, dot weapon and loudmouth procs) on live with down ya go and shut yer face for pressure/push but this doesnt seem possible or viable in current game build?
Re: Black Orc bugged/nerfed since live?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 5:40 am
by Ysaran
I did not play BO on live so I'm not sure about the rest, but Loudmouth (longer ICD and lower noumber of proc trigger) has been heavily nerfed. As far as I know the closest thing about a DoT build for BO is the autoattack build.
Re: Black Orc bugged/nerfed since live?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 3:58 pm
by Culexus
goetn wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:41 pm
Hey, Gibaxh here, returning player 80rr summit official, on return 46rr.
I have a question or feedback w/e. Both "Down ya go" and "Shut yer face" is supposed to still do their damage part vs unstoppable/reoccuring cc, this was a major part of a BOs way of putting pressure on other players as far as i played and remembered it. They atleast worked that way on live, any changelog about this or reason for the change? Aswell as "Loudmouth" is supposed to proc waaaaay more?
I built majorly around BO dots (ave another one, dot weapon and loudmouth procs) on live with down ya go and shut yer face for pressure/push but this doesnt seem possible or viable in current game build?
Down ya Go and Shut yer face still deal damage when the opponent has immunity. Check you haven't got the GCD saver addon enabled, as that may prevent you from using them when immunity is up.
Procs have been heavily nerfed on ROR. They no longer crit, don't gain any % damage buffs, and can only trigger every 0.25 seconds. No multiple loudmouth procs from Da Biggest I'm afraid.
Re: Black Orc bugged/nerfed since live?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 8:09 pm
by Bozzax
The dot is nerfed as well won’t proc bellows/LM like it did on live. Quite meh class atm
Re: Black Orc bugged/nerfed since live?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:43 pm
by goetn
Culexus wrote: Wed Jul 09, 2025 3:58 pm
goetn wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:41 pm
Hey, Gibaxh here, returning player 80rr summit official, on return 46rr.
I have a question or feedback w/e. Both "Down ya go" and "Shut yer face" is supposed to still do their damage part vs unstoppable/reoccuring cc, this was a major part of a BOs way of putting pressure on other players as far as i played and remembered it. They atleast worked that way on live, any changelog about this or reason for the change? Aswell as "Loudmouth" is supposed to proc waaaaay more?
I built majorly around BO dots (ave another one, dot weapon and loudmouth procs) on live with down ya go and shut yer face for pressure/push but this doesnt seem possible or viable in current game build?
Down ya Go and Shut yer face still deal damage when the opponent has immunity. Check you haven't got the GCD saver addon enabled, as that may prevent you from using them when immunity is up.
Procs have been heavily nerfed on ROR. They no longer crit, don't gain any % damage buffs, and can only trigger every 0.25 seconds. No multiple loudmouth procs from Da Biggest I'm afraid.
Thank you for GCD saver addon info, seems like i have alot of addons that i dont even installed myself- weird. On the rest thats saaaaad, always thought alot of dps from the Blorc came from missing alot of other utility from other tank classes, did we "get anything else" in return for nerfs? I mean still the coolest tank but ye >_<
Re: Black Orc bugged/nerfed since live?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:45 pm
by goetn
Bozzax wrote: Wed Jul 09, 2025 8:09 pm
The dot is nerfed as well won’t proc bellows/LM like it did on live. Quite meh class atm
Bit sad to hear ngl
Re: Black Orc bugged/nerfed since live?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:28 pm
by Culexus
goetn wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:43 pm
Thank you for GCD saver addon info, seems like i have alot of addons that i dont even installed myself- weird. On the rest thats saaaaad, always thought alot of dps from the Blorc came from missing alot of other utility from other tank classes, did we "get anything else" in return for nerfs? I mean still the coolest tank but ye >_<
As a SnB tank, we're one of the best in-game, bringing loads of defense and utility to a group. Unfortunately, we're also the worst 2h tank by a considerable margin. Not to say 2h is unplayable, but we have to give up a lot for very little in return.
Re: Black Orc bugged/nerfed since live?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:47 pm
by Trema
Is it possible to build offensive s&b? I see that chosen and ib can but don't hear much about the other classes.
Re: Black Orc bugged/nerfed since live?
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:52 am
by goetn
Culexus wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:28 pm
goetn wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:43 pm
Thank you for GCD saver addon info, seems like i have alot of addons that i dont even installed myself- weird. On the rest thats saaaaad, always thought alot of dps from the Blorc came from missing alot of other utility from other tank classes, did we "get anything else" in return for nerfs? I mean still the coolest tank but ye >_<
As a SnB tank, we're one of the best in-game, bringing loads of defense and utility to a group. Unfortunately, we're also the worst 2h tank by a considerable margin. Not to say 2h is unplayable, but we have to give up a lot for very little in return.
Ok thats some comfort tbh! I have never been a fan of 2hand BOs, always gone with SnB
Re: Black Orc bugged/nerfed since live?
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:42 am
by Sinisterror
RoR.builders - Black Orc
This probably would be the SnBrawler spec if Tree hit Combo was still usable with shield! Full parry+block on renown, 1quick escape and 9% Crit.