Return of Reckoning

Hi all,

I'll get straight to the point: I was a high RR WH on live (Judgement-confession specced), and now I rolled a Witch Elf: I know it's currently a subpar class, but it will get better at T4 so I'm willing to wait. In the meantime, I'd like to have some advice from veteran WE players: I might be totally wrong, but I think that a Suffering/Treachery build (or viceversa) could be the way to go. Carnage doesn't seem to be appealing, even though On Your Knees could sound fun.

Key abilities and tactics:
Treachery: Heart Seeker, Increased Pain, Elixir of the Cauldron, Masterful Treachery (at higher RR)
Suffering: Black Lotus Blade, Witchbrew (need input on this)

First thing I'm going for is IP, then Heart Seeker

Any thoughts, ideas, theorical suggestions, even in perspective?

Thanks a lot

I don't play WE but I remeber someone posting a spec here once, I think it was vdova and grumjacs

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=we; ... :;;0:0:0:0:

This is the standard solo ganking spec if I remeber the post right


This was an alternative spec posted that I think was more geared to killing healers

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=we; ... 9:;0:0:0:0:

I cant tell you the pros and cons of the 2 builds cause once again I don't play we or stealth based calsses for that matter


I know for right now most Wes in my guild much like wh are specing the inc 50% crit dmg thing

Hey Kryss welcome to bi.tchelfs familly Both specs posted above are fun to play and pretty viable. You can also modefy themby using alternative dmg tactics.
It depend on Your playstyle and gear. For my personel experience the witchbrew spec was more viable in party,while OYK spec was great when soloing and catching kitters. I was playing witchbrew spec on solo in later game,because I modified my gear lit

Hey Kryss welcome to bi.tchelfs familly Both specs posted above are fun to play and pretty viable. You can also modify them by using alternative dmg tactics.
It depend on Your playstyle and gear. For my personel experience the witchbrew spec was more viable in party,while OYK spec was great when soloing and catching kitters. I was playing witchbrew spec on solo in later game,because incoming heal debuff+outgoing one from kiss proc made kill healers much easier and also I modified some of my gear to defensive and main source of dmg was Agonizing wound+witchbrew+kiss procs + wracking pain dot(also reduce toughnes)finisher with wounds debuff, while had 3absorb bubble procs from a)we tactic b) defensive doomflayer(warpf.) bonus c) Lotd talisman in offhand dagger. Dont need to mention absorb pockets and absorb pots
That spec also cut thru tanks like butter thanks to armor ignore/magic dmg dots+procs.

Thank you for your feedback
I need a clarification on OYK: I could knockback a target and then stun it with HS (or viceversa), is that right? I wonder how it performs without Black Lotus Blade, though, cause it seems a critical asset if you want to kill casters and healers in big fights.

Also, what finishers would you use with a Treachery/Suffering build without Witchbrew?

Thanks!

OyK knockdown(stun) one target on 30 feet range and does AOE dmg to nearby targets up to range 48 feet from target with full bloodlust. Black lotus blade is crucial for witchbrew party spec(and for me even for solo ganking)

Depends on how many hp target have before finisher. Mostly using puncture, but if target has more than 60%hp I would use ruthless assault.

Now in T2 I use mostyly ruthless assault.

So basically OYK and HS are the same effect? are they stackable (3+3 secs on a target)? I'm asking cause WH doesn't have a similar skill (I was a BaL aficionado).

I'm also using ruthless at the moment, anche puncture for finisher

Vdova wrote:It depend on Your playstyle and gear. For my personel experience the witchbrew spec was more viable in party,while OYK spec was great when soloing and catching kitters. I was playing witchbrew spec on solo in later game,because incoming heal debuff+outgoing one from kiss proc made kill healers much easier and also I modified some of my gear to defensive and main source of dmg was Agonizing wound+witchbrew+kiss procs + wracking pain dot(also reduce toughnes)finisher with wounds debuff, while had 3absorb bubble procs from a)we tactic b) defensive doomflayer(warpf.) bonus c) Lotd talisman in offhand dagger. Dont need to mention absorb pockets and absorb pots
That spec also cut thru tanks like butter thanks to armor ignore/magic dmg dots+procs.

By Khaine's might, I thought I was the only one whose play style was like this?
If you didn't play Dwarfs in your downtime Vdova (to which I just discovered via your signature), I would kiss you on the lips.

Personally the only part in that I'd change is in keeping my bloodlust up and rotating "WitchBrew". High Bloodlust for what I remember and keeping it, meant higher dmg continuously. "Ruthless Assault" was used mostly when the target was starting to run or only best when it is going to bring about your victory. Couple "Ruthless Assault" with the tactic "Hail For The Hag Queen" was greatly helpful too.
Like Vdova said though, everyone's play style is different and playing what works best for you is often the best way you'll play your class.

Khaine's blessings upon you.

kryss wrote:So basically OYK and HS are the same effect? are they stackable (3+3 secs on a target)? I'm asking cause WH doesn't have a similar skill (I was a BaL aficionado).

I'm also using ruthless at the moment, anche puncture for finisher

Thats correct. OyK and HS has same effect(knockdown) and they share same imnunity timer,so they are not stackable.

Hi,


on live i played most of the time with this build, was nice for solo roaming the lake and sc ahh so much fun with witch god old times ^^

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=we; ... :5608:5619:

lower rr rank http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=we; ... :5608:5619: