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+10 Range on Invader for MSH

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 4:10 pm
by Illuminati
Has anyone tried this lately?

I did a 4x Triumph / 5 x Invader build and it was like playing a different class. The extra range is huge and so many of the MSH abilities really suffer from the short range.

Anyway, give it a whirl. I did Triumph Cape, Belt, Chest, and Jewel. The rest Invader.

Had 234 Melee Power and went with the Armor Pen route (70%).

Re: +10 Range on Invader for MSH

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 4:44 pm
by wonshot
Keep in mind that the Range, and the Radius from aoe abilities are very different.
Having the extra range to SquigLeap is nice though!

Re: +10 Range on Invader for MSH

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 4:56 pm
by Illuminati
Yep, the PBAOE (360 abilities) don't benefit from this, but the majority of the kit does. Have fun!

Re: +10 Range on Invader for MSH

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:37 am
by tazdingo
I miss range stacking on rift magus....

Re: +10 Range on Invader for MSH

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:34 am
by Scragmuncher
Illuminati wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 4:56 pm Yep, +5 on both sides from the epicenter for AOE.
Are you 100% sure it is increasing your radius? Most range increases do not increase the radius of abilities.

Re: +10 Range on Invader for MSH

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:19 am
by Moonbiter
Scragmuncher wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:34 am
Illuminati wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 4:56 pm Yep, +5 on both sides from the epicenter for AOE.
Are you 100% sure it is increasing your radius? Most range increases do not increase the radius of abilities.
Just tested it. All 5ft close combat range got increased range too. Most fun )

It it a bug?

Re: +10 Range on Invader for MSH

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:51 am
by leftayparxoun
Last time I tested it (1.5 years ago or so) it worked correctly; all targeted abilities (Squig Leap, Ard Nogin, Big Claw, Git Em, Tastes Like Stuntie, Don't Eat Me) got +10 ft range.

AOE radius on abilities was (correctly) unaffected.
If the radius is now increased due to the Invader bonus then please bugreport it.

Re: +10 Range on Invader for MSH

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 1:58 pm
by tazdingo
yes I also remember +range also affecting aoe just fine, onslaught gloves too

Re: +10 Range on Invader for MSH

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:36 pm
by wonshot
Suuuper easy to debunk.

I stood at the Targetdummies without +range equipped. I moved backwards while channeling BB untill i was 1ft away from the standard 25ft.
I then equipped +10ft range bonus from 5piece Invader, and as assumed it didnt let me hit the target dummies with BB standing at 26ft.

Re: +10 Range on Invader for MSH

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 4:55 pm
by Illuminati
Yeah, it's not working on anything PBAOE, just the ST or cone (180) based attacks, which is 95% of the kit. Anyway, per my original post, try when you can as it is a lot of fun and the class feels much better.