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WL Nerf

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 1:22 pm
by SuperStar
Leonine frenzy

Problem huge base dmg (base dmg 200 but it got the weapon dmg too so basicly the base dmg is 286)
286 dmg for 10 sec it can proc every half second.
Its just absurd. Its not eve the player.

This dmg come with zero offensive stats. And a pet does it not even the player

Basic pet dmg also insane imo

Fang and claw
2*329

Maul all the base pet dmg are very high imo.

Its not even the player. Thats why they go regen run away and tanky. The pet do all the job the player just put the armor break.

These dmg with 0! Zero offensive stats

Its not oke, imo.

Atleast these are not magic dmg but come on wl has a huge undefendable 1600 armor break.

Suggession:
Make the pet base dmg tiny if the wl hasnt got any offensive stat the pet should be a lil cat.
Also the pet even if the wl has high offensive stat only should do big dmg if the owner is nearby.

Re: WL Nerf

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 2:21 pm
by krumhur
Am I wrong or, lately, you have been asking for nerfs left and right, for multiple classes? Should we expect more of these posts?

I ask because I am not convinced that posts like these are very useful: usually (like in this case) they are centered around single skills, or even single specs, but lack a broad view about the game balance.

Mind you, I don't play WLs, which is why I won't discuss the merits of your remarks. It's the method behind such posts that seems, to me, wrong.

Re: WL Nerf

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 2:22 pm
by Mortgrimm
The pet got nerfed with the patch and WL in general lost round 15% dmg.Tbf, this was needed, even from the point of a WL player. But aoe is still the way to go. Pet is way too unreliable with his behavior and lost a lot of dmg.
Real question is if u really think WL needs a nerf or u just wanna nerf every class u encountered? Cause i see u posting about every class the last days. Just wondering.

Re: WL Nerf

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 2:36 pm
by SuperStar
krumhur wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 2:21 pm Am I wrong or, lately, you have been asking for nerfs left and right, for multiple classes? Should we expect more of these posts?

I ask because I am not convinced that posts like these are very useful: usually (like in this case) they are centered around single skills, or even single specs, but lack a broad view about the game balance.

Mind you, I don't play WLs, which is why I won't discuss the merits of your remarks. It's the method behind such posts that seems, to me, wrong.
Like i said in my other topic i have some time now at the office and iam hunting for outliers.
Even if you say you dont have too much knowledge, you can understand with zero offensive stat nobody should do big dmg. And usually the outliers not good especially if only a few class has benefit from them.


Its very simple you should be expert to understand.
High risk, high reward a healty fair system.

Low or zero risk with high reward coz a lot of fustration.

If you olay the game and talk and hear the players you can see read and feel it. Even after the mdps balance there are problems.

We love this game we greatful for the team the hard work amd the comtent and the opportunity.

But thy God we can tell write our opinion about it.

Re: WL Nerf

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 2:40 pm
by SuperStar
Mortgrimm wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 2:22 pm The pet got nerfed with the patch and WL in general lost round 15% dmg.Tbf, this was needed, even from the point of a WL player. But aoe is still the way to go. Pet is way too unreliable with his behavior and lost a lot of dmg.
Real question is if u really think WL needs a nerf or u just wanna nerf every class u encountered? Cause i see u posting about every class the last days. Just wondering.
The post above this i answered why i do this.
Also this dmg is very high from a pet whos owner has zero offensive stat.

For comparsation a glass cannon slayer maker 1240 dmg with spellbreaker. Aganist toughness and armor and it has condition and coz reduced armor, not instant need rage etc. And the sl has to go near the enemy not just send a pet.

Re: WL Nerf

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 4:23 pm
by Ruin
SuperStar wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 1:22 pm Leonine frenzy

Problem huge base dmg (base dmg 200 but it got the weapon dmg too so basicly the base dmg is 286)
286 dmg for 10 sec it can proc every half second.
Its just absurd. Its not eve the player.

This dmg come with zero offensive stats. And a pet does it not even the player

Basic pet dmg also insane imo

Fang and claw
2*329

Maul all the base pet dmg are very high imo.

Its not even the player. Thats why they go regen run away and tanky. The pet do all the job the player just put the armor break.

These dmg with 0! Zero offensive stats

Its not oke, imo.

Atleast these are not magic dmg but come on wl has a huge undefendable 1600 armor break.

Suggession:
Make the pet base dmg tiny if the wl hasnt got any offensive stat the pet should be a lil cat.
Also the pet even if the wl has high offensive stat only should do big dmg if the owner is nearby.
Think your numbers are, off (https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/9194)
base dmg is 150, then there is main stac element and then 0 (ZERO) weapon dps.
Aslo beeing able to proc it every 0.5 sec dosent mean it is happening that often.

Re: WL Nerf

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 4:42 pm
by Shogun4138
SuperStar wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 1:22 pm Leonine frenzy

Problem huge base dmg (base dmg 200 but it got the weapon dmg too so basicly the base dmg is 286)
286 dmg for 10 sec it can proc every half second.
Its just absurd. Its not eve the player.

This dmg come with zero offensive stats. And a pet does it not even the player

Basic pet dmg also insane imo

Fang and claw
2*329

Maul all the base pet dmg are very high imo.

Its not even the player. Thats why they go regen run away and tanky. The pet do all the job the player just put the armor break.

These dmg with 0! Zero offensive stats

Its not oke, imo.

Atleast these are not magic dmg but come on wl has a huge undefendable 1600 armor break.

Suggession:
Make the pet base dmg tiny if the wl hasnt got any offensive stat the pet should be a lil cat.
Also the pet even if the wl has high offensive stat only should do big dmg if the owner is nearby.

You seem to be posting a lot about nerfing other classes. What classes do you play? Can we help you with your builds so you survive? Maybe thats what is needed more than nerfs.

Re: WL Nerf

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 4:46 pm
by Zumos
The base damage of Leonine Frenzy is 150 and its damage doesn't get increased by weapon dps. It's still a strong ability, but that makes sense it being the 13 pt ability in Path of Guardian and with it having a significant cooldown.

The pet damage was already nerfed recently.

Re: WL Nerf

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 4:55 pm
by Bozzax
Well wasn't pet damage buffed significantly in ROR along with pet speed before the recent nerf?

Re: WL Nerf

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2026 5:58 pm
by DirkDaring
Really, again you posted yesterday trying to get Chosen Touch of Palsy nerfed because it was to OP, without even knowing that the Ironbreaker, has the exact same ability as the Chosen, with Punishing' Blow, and now you are calling for a WL nerf, and I see another thread you started requesting a WE nerf.

Looking at your post count it seems you have been playing a long time, or it could just be, you are a Long time poster, first time playing person lol