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Give WP/DoK a gap closer.
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 10:59 pm
by Cullenn
It is just unfair how dps healers like shaman or squig can just run away while we are the only class without a gap closer while they just spam dots and slow on you. I'd like to request to bring back the speed buff from unstoppable wrath, since the cooldown is 1 min, and we can barely charge the enemy using flee since they will just slow us, and we lose all career resources when we flee. It is just a shame a melee dps does not have a gap closer. And yes i'm making a post about it again.
Re: Give WP/DoK a gap closer.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 12:03 am
by M0rw47h
Yeah, just tie it to Great Weapon.
Re: Give WP/DoK a gap closer.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 10:34 am
by live4treasure
Cullenn wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2026 10:59 pm
It is just unfair how dps healers like shaman or squig can just run away while we are the only class without a gap closer while they just spam dots and slow on you. I'd like to request to bring back the speed buff from unstoppable wrath, since the cooldown is 1 min, and we can barely charge the enemy using flee since they will just slow us, and we lose all career resources when we flee. It is just a shame a melee dps does not have a gap closer. And yes i'm making a post about it again.
Over the past few weeks, every single thread generated on this topic has been from you. People tend to give you explanations on why DPS WP is just fine without a gap closer, or that it would need to lose other tools at its disposal in order to function this way. But it seems like what you do is you nod, and then post another thread. This is probably like one of those youtube challenges "Day X of posting a thread about WP/DoK needing a gap closer until they get one".
If so, go ahead, it's entertaining, but at this point there is literally no new information you can be presented with, and so frankly, the next steps is your threads will be taken less seriously, then after that, you personally, as a member of the community, will be taken less seriously. Up to you.
Re: Give WP/DoK a gap closer.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 1:58 pm
by Cullenn
live4treasure wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2026 10:34 am
Cullenn wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2026 10:59 pm
It is just unfair how dps healers like shaman or squig can just run away while we are the only class without a gap closer while they just spam dots and slow on you. I'd like to request to bring back the speed buff from unstoppable wrath, since the cooldown is 1 min, and we can barely charge the enemy using flee since they will just slow us, and we lose all career resources when we flee. It is just a shame a melee dps does not have a gap closer. And yes i'm making a post about it again.
Over the past few weeks, every single thread generated on this topic has been from you. People tend to give you explanations on why DPS WP is just fine without a gap closer, or that it would need to lose other tools at its disposal in order to function this way. But it seems like what you do is you nod, and then post another thread. This is probably like one of those youtube challenges "Day X of posting a thread about WP/DoK needing a gap closer until they get one".
If so, go ahead, it's entertaining, but at this point there is literally no new information you can be presented with, and so frankly, the next steps is your threads will be taken less seriously, then after that, you personally, as a member of the community, will be taken less seriously. Up to you.
Yeah, you are correct, i apologize for repeating the same posts, i usually do them when i feel rage spikes of just trying to kill a rdps and being slow and killed and laughed at, sorry for that and you are right, i will try to avoid making posts like this, thank you.
Re: Give WP/DoK a gap closer.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 2:18 pm
by Sinisterror
Cullenn wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2026 1:58 pm
live4treasure wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2026 10:34 am
Cullenn wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2026 10:59 pm
It is just unfair how dps healers like shaman or squig can just run away while we are the only class without a gap closer while they just spam dots and slow on you. I'd like to request to bring back the speed buff from unstoppable wrath, since the cooldown is 1 min, and we can barely charge the enemy using flee since they will just slow us, and we lose all career resources when we flee. It is just a shame a melee dps does not have a gap closer. And yes i'm making a post about it again.
Over the past few weeks, every single thread generated on this topic has been from you. People tend to give you explanations on why DPS WP is just fine without a gap closer, or that it would need to lose other tools at its disposal in order to function this way. But it seems like what you do is you nod, and then post another thread. This is probably like one of those youtube challenges "Day X of posting a thread about WP/DoK needing a gap closer until they get one".
If so, go ahead, it's entertaining, but at this point there is literally no new information you can be presented with, and so frankly, the next steps is your threads will be taken less seriously, then after that, you personally, as a member of the community, will be taken less seriously. Up to you.
Yeah, you are correct, i apologize for repeating the same posts, i usually do them when i feel rage spikes of just trying to kill a rdps and being slow and killed and laughed at, sorry for that and you are right, i will try to avoid making posts like this, thank you.
Wow. Honesty and admitting you were wrong is pretty rare take here : D Gongratz
Re: Give WP/DoK a gap closer.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 5:19 pm
by M0rw47h
OP was correct: in any semi-competent environment that allows kiting, once you get staggered, punted, or slowed down during a fight that isn't stationary, it's really hard to reconnect without any form of engage ability (charge/pounce/pull) and dps WP/DoK can be kited for eternity with ease.
If you think dps WP/DoK shouldn't have a charge, why would WE/WH be allowed to have one?
Re: Give WP/DoK a gap closer.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 5:43 pm
by tsyuryu
then why 2h tank dont get a charge then ? they have same kiting problem as wp/dok
Re: Give WP/DoK a gap closer.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 5:58 pm
by M0rw47h
tsyuryu wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2026 5:43 pm
then why 2h tank dont get a charge then ? they have same kiting problem as wp/dok
They don't have WP/DoK problems, as by equipping 2h weapons you don't change your purpose, you're still a tank. If you equip 2h hammer as WP for example, your healing is miserable compared to both hammer+book and hammer+shield variant as your purpose changes to DPS.
Re: Give WP/DoK a gap closer.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 6:08 pm
by hordak774
DOC HAVE tough debuff wp dont !!
Re: Give WP/DoK a gap closer.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 6:44 pm
by Avernus
As long as this DoK/WP has complete 0% healing - sure, why not. And, i guess, since you want to be dps - no res and cleanse.