Return of Reckoning

I'm in the process of downloading the game (never played before!) and can't decide between the Witch Elf and Witch Hunter. I've read sources that claim they're identical and others that say they're a bit different. I like the standard Assassin/Rogue classes with stealth, burst, CC, etc... (Rogues in WoW, Stalkers in WildStar) and can't decide what to pick. As the game has been shutdown, this seemed the best source to get the information I seek!

Also, am I correct in assuming that Witch Elf = Female with double blades and Witch Hunter = Male with sword/gun?

Witch Elf is female only, WH can be either and yes, WE is dual daggers, whilst WH is pistol/rapier.

Roll both and see which baby MDPS grabs you.

If I remember correctly the big difference was WH had to stack ballistic and str, WE stacked Str/WS.

WH had ranged finishers

Azuzu wrote:If I remember correctly the big difference was WH had to stack ballistic and str, WE stacked Str/WS.

WH had ranged finishers

That got changed, now is str/ws for both.

Azuzu wrote:If I remember correctly the big difference was WH had to stack ballistic and str, WE stacked Str/WS.

WH had ranged finishers

Yeah, for some brain-fart reason at launch, Mythic made WHs having to stack Ballistics, as well as Strength, to try and match the DPS of a WE who only had to stack STR. Retarded realism from the devs there, but thankfully they soon changed it to STR only.

Late game WE and WH are 2 of the most balanced and equal classes in the game.

The main difference that I can think of is that WH has more ranged finishers but WE is a bit more “sustainable/durable” for extended fight? Though I don’t really play them so im not too sure

WE’s are prettier to look at so there is that


Devs please…..we could really use archtype or class subfourms cuase were getting a lot of new and/or curious players

Mechanically and DPS wise, is one superior to the other? I've been trying to read over dated sources (we're talking 2008 websites here!) and I can't find any big consensus.

bloodi wrote:

Azuzu wrote:If I remember correctly the big difference was WH had to stack ballistic and str, WE stacked Str/WS.

WH had ranged finishers

That got changed, now is str/ws for both.

That's right! I didn't play much of either. The bitching from WHs about Ballistics/Str stacking stuck out in my mind.

Str1der wrote:Mechanically and DPS wise, is one superior to the other? I've been trying to read over dated sources (we're talking 2008 websites here!) and I can't find any big consensus.

Same mechanics and the dps is kinda the same too

In the grand scheme of things their pretty equal


But WH’s can get excommunicate which can stop healers from heling for 15s and that can eesentially win you 6v6 fights but it’s a morale 4 that you have to spec for

WE’s get a morale 3 that can inc grp crit chance by 50% which is nice too

Ugh, touch choice. Gameplay videos seem really similar, but wikis and guides are saying that they're quite different. Any personal recommendations? The only reason I'm leaning towards WH is due to them having a Combo Point system, meaning it'd feel more similar to a WoW Rogue. On the flipside, WE has double daggers and poisons...

Why Mythic, why...