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Skills changes that we need ASAP (BO/SM/BG/WL)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:50 am
by jojomen
Hello Azarael, here i i'll post changes that i would like to see in game and hope u all like them as much as i do.
We all know same classes not so good like others and had gimped abilities or skills in path tree placed by S` Inquisition.
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Personal request : can we add ADDON "Plan B" into torrent with clinet RoR, BlackOrc+Swordmaster unplayable without it , feels like when DEVS created stances for MARA\SWs they waste too much time and resources to do the same for BO\SMs.Link -- on site more than 30+ others addons if anyone of you would like to download them.
http://games.softpedia.com/get/Mods-Add ... lanb.shtml


BLACK ORC - people play them not because they are powerful or party need them.
But because they are GReen,BLACK and ORCS let's change that and make them almost useful as KobTs or IB.
The sad thing is that, out of all tanks only Black Orc+Swordmaster didnt had their way to debuff incoming heal,so
for party they are just tought guy with average damage Who wonna them in premade? ppl said "JUST reroll DPSclass".
1) We can make "war bellows" in party buffs - auras just like chosen had ,(but war bellows on teammates work without a chance to proc any BO tactic that he has equiped on him ATM). But to ceep things more balanced make lower chance to proc for teammates drop from 25% to 15%;


SWORDMASTER - same goes for SMs, because all of us know how people call SMs class when no SM around :twisted: (-_-) AKa "SELFISH", no party buffs not even utility for guarded one all of skills had only one purpose to save ass of sm and after that kill anyone who tried to hurt his-ass.
1) Just like for BO make Blade Enchantments in aura skills;
2) "Eagle Flight" we all know how SMs hate dat skill (parry buff 25% for 5 sec),but we cant waste all of our AP bar and time on that.
If we look at other tanks they had parry buffs UPtime 10-20 sec and thats alot for pvp and rvr Just look at CHOSEN :"1" "Suppression" +25%parry for 15sec, "2" tactic of chosens "Mixed Defenses" 25% parry for 5sec after block but that proc from tactic which i can undestand 5 duration for passiv with no APcost.( and it's already whole 50% to parry -"DAT NOT SELFFISH CHOSEN u think?"
Lets make "Eagle Flight" in party buff for 5sec 25% for whole party, just like Black orc had "Savin` Me Hide" -20% incoming magic damage for party for 4s.

White Lion - yep it's strange to talk about HIM, because some people say they are Useless others cry about how OP they are.
1)Heal-deBUff,all other melee DPS classes had it without even puting any points in Skill Path tree.
Lets Switch places of skills(like you did for SM\BO KDs) in Path of Axeman "Thin the herd" put in 5 points slot,"Primal fury" 9 points slot, "Cull the weak" 13 points slot and all of WLs will had their Heal-deBuff.
2)"Pounce" no other class in game didn't have sach mobility to begin with, its breaking game rules to jump on walls of keeps and gates without even CD;
To get that OP skill you only need to put 5 points in Path of hunter ,it's disbalancing early game so much no healer t2-t3 can do a thing when WL flying to him and again jump away;
Suggestion: For sake of GODDESs put "Pounce" on CD in 10 sec , it srsly horrible -today in pvp WL killed me (JUST SPAMING POUNCE 11 times for ~gap closer~ skill being use 11 times in 60 sec. TROLOLO) i even didnt know does he trolling or he just dead-brainer and what a point to use any other skill if he can just Pounce+Pounce Like son of MARIO.
3)AGGRO-TACTICs :And Btw about tactics of WL ("STALKER","THREATENING DISTRACTION" both of them change arrgo for lion or player) we know no one should use it or waste points on it -so can we swap them with 11points tactics in both trees?

Re: Skills changes that we need ASAP (BO/SM/BG/WL)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:16 am
by noisestorm
aha

Re: Skills changes that we need ASAP (BO/SM/BG/WL)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:58 am
by Joshwa70
magus have aa.. haven't you ever specced into str and just used that massive dps staff to whallop someone?

Re: Skills changes that we need ASAP (BO/SM/BG/WL)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:03 pm
by Coryphaus
Change choppas don't wanna live for eva tactic from 33 to 15


This will mirror slayer and will balance lower tiers

Re: Skills changes that we need ASAP (BO/SM/BG/WL)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:08 pm
by Renork
I can't wait for t3. All the cry babies that whine about pounce will switch over to rift/electromag bitching.

Re: Skills changes that we need ASAP (BO/SM/BG/WL)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:14 pm
by normanis
punce should root target on 3 sec and have 5 sec cd ( with melle bug its normal)

Re: Skills changes that we need ASAP (BO/SM/BG/WL)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:19 pm
by Razid1987
I like the idea and the initiative, but Id like to see more positive changes to buff the BG and the BO: BO needs more utility. I don't think that buffing War Bellows and 2 abilities in a single tree is quite enough, tbh. And I'd love to see 2hander BG actually be somewhat viable. They are badass!

It of course goes without saying that the respectable mirrors should receive those buffs, too.

Re: Skills changes that we need ASAP (BO/SM/BG/WL)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:23 pm
by normanis
staker wl tactic is ridiculous ws mara tough tactic ;-)

Re: Skills changes that we need ASAP (BO/SM/BG/WL)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:32 pm
by Coryphaus
Razid1987 wrote:I like the idea and the initiative, but Id like to see more positive changes to buff the BG and the BO: BO needs more utility. I don't think that buffing War Bellows and 2 abilities in a single tree is quite enough, tbh. And I'd love to see 2hander BG actually be somewhat viable. They are badass!

It of course goes without saying that the respectable mirrors should receive those buffs, too.
Actually now that kd on blorcs are 9pts I'd say that 2h blorcs is pretty viable

They always did pretty good physical dmg on live but now they have better cc

Hell blorcs and iB are the only 2 classes I think off classing is even viable on

Re: Skills changes that we need ASAP (BO/SM/BG/WL)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:36 pm
by Razid1987
Coryphaus wrote:
Razid1987 wrote:I like the idea and the initiative, but Id like to see more positive changes to buff the BG and the BO: BO needs more utility. I don't think that buffing War Bellows and 2 abilities in a single tree is quite enough, tbh. And I'd love to see 2hander BG actually be somewhat viable. They are badass!

It of course goes without saying that the respectable mirrors should receive those buffs, too.
Actually now that kd on blorcs are 9pts I'd say that 2h blorcs is pretty viable

They always did pretty good physical dmg on live but now they have better cc

Hell blorcs and iB are the only 2 classes I think off classing is even viable on
I said 2hander BG, not BO.