Return of Reckoning

Completely disagree. Heal debuffs are far too powerful to be the 6 point ability, and id even say they are too powerful to be the 10 point one. If you want a heal debuff you should have to give up something else to spec for it (and this should apply to all classes, not just sws).

BG - Soul killer - is to powerfull to be the 10 point.
Mara - Tainted claw - is to powerfull to be a core ability
Chosen - Discordant Turbulence - is to powerfull to be the 6 point
Shaman - Yer no so bad - is to powerfull to be a core ability

Conversely, the heal debuff which is an exact mirror of the SH version gets to be at 6pts, even though its mirror is correctly at 10pts

I do not speak for SH. I'm for a situation that was on the original server. This means heal debuff 6 points in both classes

lastalien wrote:

Completely disagree. Heal debuffs are far too powerful to be the 6 point ability, and id even say they are too powerful to be the 10 point one. If you want a heal debuff you should have to give up something else to spec for it (and this should apply to all classes, not just sws).

BG - Soul killer - is to powerfull to be the 10 point.
Mara - Tainted claw - is to powerfull to be a core ability
Chosen - Discordant Turbulence - is to powerfull to be the 6 point
Shaman - Yer no so bad - is to powerfull to be a core ability

So funny you are forgot (or didn't even know) about Order mirrors.

SilverWF wrote:

lastalien wrote:

Completely disagree. Heal debuffs are far too powerful to be the 6 point ability, and id even say they are too powerful to be the 10 point one. If you want a heal debuff you should have to give up something else to spec for it (and this should apply to all classes, not just sws).

BG - Soul killer - is to powerfull to be the 10 point.
Mara - Tainted claw - is to powerfull to be a core ability
Chosen - Discordant Turbulence - is to powerfull to be the 6 point
Shaman - Yer no so bad - is to powerfull to be a core ability

So funny you are forgot (or didn't even know) about Order mirrors.

Except Mara mirror, the holywar about in neigbour topic
Ah, yeah, forgot choppaz and theirs inc and out HDds in 10th.

SilverWF wrote:So funny you are forgot (or didn't even know) about Order mirrors.

It was post on post.

I do not speak for SH. I'm for a situation that was on the original server. This means heal debuff 6 points in both classes

read this

Sizer wrote:Completely disagree. Heal debuffs are far too powerful to be the 6 point ability

+1 at least the 50% ones

Especially with zero CD : >

Everyone who thinks a FA nerf to SW justifies any other 'buffs' for now (even if it was different back on live) is nothing but a freaking Lunatic in my eyes.

noisestorm wrote:Everyone who thinks a FA nerf to SW justifies any other 'buffs' for now (even if it was different back on live) is nothing but a freaking Lunatic in my eyes.

You have to consider the fact that 99% of ppl who roll an SW are 1-button wonders and they are clueless about the class overall.

lastalien wrote:
BG - Soul killer - is to powerfull to be the 10 point.
Mara - Tainted claw - is to powerfull to be a core ability
Chosen - Discordant Turbulence - is to powerfull to be the 6 point
Shaman - Yer no so bad - is to powerfull to be a core ability



I do not speak for SH. I'm for a situation that was on the original server. This means heal debuff 6 points in both classes

BG has an outgoing heal debuff that also requires a tactic slot

Mara has a 25% healdebuff that needs a 11 point talent for it to be 50%

Chosen is a 25% healdebuff aura!

Shaman AP drain is really not the same as a 50% healdebuff

Shadowgurke wrote:

lastalien wrote:
BG - Soul killer - is to powerfull to be the 10 point.
Mara - Tainted claw - is to powerfull to be a core ability
Chosen - Discordant Turbulence - is to powerfull to be the 6 point
Shaman - Yer no so bad - is to powerfull to be a core ability



I do not speak for SH. I'm for a situation that was on the original server. This means heal debuff 6 points in both classes

BG has an outgoing heal debuff that also requires a tactic slot

Mara has a 25% healdebuff that needs a 11 point talent for it to be 50%

Chosen is a 25% healdebuff aura!

Shaman AP drain is really not the same as a 50% healdebuff

Mara - ... and tactic slot

KOTBS - 25% outgoing heal debuff aura

AM - AP drain + heal debuff with low CD and strong DOT

lator wrote: You have to consider the fact that 99% of ppl who roll an SW are 1-button wonders and they are clueless about the class overall.

Sadly the latter part of your statement hits the nail on the head for 80% or more of the forum users. I am really weary of having certain individuals spout their balancing ideas around when they cant even comprehend the basics of their enemies or even own classes..