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Re: Decline of the Elfs
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:59 pm
by Jaycub
I agree that it's tree is one of the worst in the game, but the mobility from pounce shouldn't be underestimated.
It has access to a strong armor debuff, 50% crit multiplier, and a lot of good scaling tactics. It has what a good MDPS needs, but when the class mechanic is unreliable/broken it can hinder that.
Same thing with WH, it's a solid class but of course slayer is going to overshadow it (and WL) because the drawback of class is pretty much completely negated thanks to guard, and how strong healing is in general.
From a singular perspective each MDPS seems fine, but when you tack on the support structure that a group provides the slayer is allowed to scale far beyond WL/WH.
Re: Decline of the Elfs
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:05 pm
by Wraithedge
Dwarfs....why'd it hafta be dwarfs!
Re: Decline of the Elfs
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:44 pm
by Korhill
The WL is sadly the weakest mdps class in ror. Not just due the pet AI. And now due the weak Pet the class is even worser. Not even worth to take the KD and frenzy (pet tree) because the pet just sucks and is dead almost everytime.
They just bring no benefit to a group, rather making the group weaker

I hope they atleast fix pet before T3.
Re: Decline of the Elfs
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:53 pm
by Razid1987
Half Elves? You mean High Elves? o.O
Re: Decline of the Elfs
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:12 pm
by Wraithedge
Razid1987 wrote:Half Elves? You mean High Elves? o.O
Holy Smokes you are right! I typed half elves instead of High Elves! My bad, I'll just fix that. But for the record that was a thing I did. Mea Culpa.
Re: Decline of the Elfs
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:22 pm
by OldPlayer
Wraithedge wrote:Razid1987 wrote:Half Elves? You mean High Elves? o.O
Holy Smokes you are right! I typed half elves instead of High Elves! My bad, I'll just fix that. But for the record that was a thing I did. Mea Culpa.
Half Elves is freudian statement, no need to edit it out. That description seems fit for the High Elves classes made by by our beloved Mythic creators.
Re: Decline of the Elfs
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:48 am
by Luth
The WL is weak, because he is the only melee DD without an incoming healdebuff.
This is the most important debuff in PvP and every group with a slayer/WL setup has only access to one incoming healdebuff per 10 seconds (which can be group cleansed ofc).
For the same reason a 2x WL setup is impossible, if you want to fight any non-pug enemies.
Re: Decline of the Elfs
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:57 am
by wos
SMs are no push overs, and down path of Hoth they have some good group utilities. Also very good DPS.
Re: Decline of the Elfs
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:12 am
by Euan
The only thing I could see in decline is SwordMasters but they were never really popular to begin with. Archmages will always remain popular because they are versatile. You can play healer and DPS. Shadow Warrior is another popular one that absolutely destroys in the lower levels. I remember way back when I used to play T2-3 and SW murdered all of Destro. I don't think they'll decline anytime soon, maybe only overseen because BW is ridiculous right now. White Lion I feel is fine, it's a very good MDPS class. It's never been too popular and buggy AI doesn't help.
Re: Decline of the Elfs
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:31 am
by levkowitz
The pet of the WL really need to be fixed, because its an fundamentally mechanic of the WL that doesnt work properly right now. The class is fun and strong in my opinion, but the broken pet reduce this fun significant.
Hope also this fix incoming as soon as possible. (I know it does, sooner incoming is impossible)