Return of Reckoning

hammerhead wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:30 pm

Jinxypie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:55 am

Sundowner wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:48 am

Please do not make fun of yourself

I am making fun of the OP. He's very reliable source of popcorn threads

Also from what we have been told for years when WLs globaled everything but tanks. Just kill the pet. So just kill the pet.
Funny how shatter limbs get mirrored and then needs to be nerfed cuz "I can't cast mah spells". Same with pounce. 45ft now. Was fine as order only huh? And now you guys discovered how is it to play against ranged KD. Welcome to earth Order.

Has something changed in politics?

its not the goal of the server

hammerhead wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:30 pm
Personally, I gave up playing until 60. There is no point in torturing yourself if there is a squig nearby for pure pleasure.

warmer

Sundowner wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:40 pm

Jinxypie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:55 am

Sundowner wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:48 am

Please do not make fun of yourself

I am making fun of the OP. He's very reliable source of popcorn threads

Also from what we have been told for years when WLs globaled everything but tanks. Just kill the pet. So just kill the pet.
Funny how shatter limbs get mirrored and then needs to be nerfed cuz "I can't cast mah spells". Same with pounce. 45ft now. Was fine as order only huh? And now you guys discovered how is it to play against ranged KD. Welcome to earth Order.

Sorry but what are you talking about?

You have accumulated all advanteges order had in the past years and sitting on a salt mine? shatter limbs is mirrored for a longs time, pounce is mirrored for a long time. Problem is not rSH having range kd, problem is his damage+survivability that's make it overtuned, and also mirroring order only abilities too has a long time of history.

Do you want a list of all destro abilities order doesn't have? how is this relevant to this topic which concerns sh and sh only?

Come down from your salt mine dude, stop makign fun of yourself.

It's SH thread so how is shatter limbs and pounce not relevant?
Anyway my point is that order is too spoiled. Still have upper hand on most classes, yet they demand to win solo queued the city with engi squad and dps AMs.

Jinxypie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:50 pm

Sundowner wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:40 pm

Jinxypie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:55 am

I am making fun of the OP. He's very reliable source of popcorn threads

Also from what we have been told for years when WLs globaled everything but tanks. Just kill the pet. So just kill the pet.
Funny how shatter limbs get mirrored and then needs to be nerfed cuz "I can't cast mah spells". Same with pounce. 45ft now. Was fine as order only huh? And now you guys discovered how is it to play against ranged KD. Welcome to earth Order.

Sorry but what are you talking about?

You have accumulated all advanteges order had in the past years and sitting on a salt mine? shatter limbs is mirrored for a longs time, pounce is mirrored for a long time. Problem is not rSH having range kd, problem is his damage+survivability that's make it overtuned, and also mirroring order only abilities too has a long time of history.

Do you want a list of all destro abilities order doesn't have? how is this relevant to this topic which concerns sh and sh only?

Come down from your salt mine dude, stop makign fun of yourself.

It's SH thread so how is shatter limbs and pounce not relevant?
Anyway my point is that order is too spoiled. Still have upper hand on most classes, yet they demand to win solo queued the city with engi squad and dps AMs.

Again, sitting on your salt mountain and spewing biased opinions of no relevancy, keep being a joke.

Also, I said that writing down all bad things order said to you and things that are mirrored long time ago are not relevant to current disucssion, not specifically shatter limbs. stop cherry picking.

Also, what are most classes that order has upper hand in? mind to list? edit: you changed your response, because it was biased and not true at all? concerning ordrer having upper hand in most classes

Sundowner wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:52 pm

Jinxypie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:50 pm

Sundowner wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:40 pm

Sorry but what are you talking about?

You have accumulated all advanteges order had in the past years and sitting on a salt mine? shatter limbs is mirrored for a longs time, pounce is mirrored for a long time. Problem is not rSH having range kd, problem is his damage+survivability that's make it overtuned, and also mirroring order only abilities too has a long time of history.

Do you want a list of all destro abilities order doesn't have? how is this relevant to this topic which concerns sh and sh only?

Come down from your salt mine dude, stop makign fun of yourself.

It's SH thread so how is shatter limbs and pounce not relevant?
Anyway my point is that order is too spoiled. Still have upper hand on most classes, yet they demand to win solo queued the city with engi squad and dps AMs.

Again, sitting on your salt mountain and spewing biased opinions of no relevancy, keep being a joke.

Also, I said that writing down all bad things order said to you and things that are mirrored long time ago are not relevant to current disucssion, not specifically shatter limbs. stop cherry picking.

Also, what are most classes that order has upper hand in? mind to list?

Not going to fuel this nonsense any more, so this is my last post in this topic. I am playing booth realms, currently enjoying order toons for quite some time almost exclusively with no complains. So what biffles me is the order snowflake attitude. That's it.
Peace

Jinxypie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:50 pm

Sundowner wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:40 pm

Jinxypie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:55 am

I am making fun of the OP. He's very reliable source of popcorn threads

Also from what we have been told for years when WLs globaled everything but tanks. Just kill the pet. So just kill the pet.
Funny how shatter limbs get mirrored and then needs to be nerfed cuz "I can't cast mah spells". Same with pounce. 45ft now. Was fine as order only huh? And now you guys discovered how is it to play against ranged KD. Welcome to earth Order.

Sorry but what are you talking about?

You have accumulated all advanteges order had in the past years and sitting on a salt mine? shatter limbs is mirrored for a longs time, pounce is mirrored for a long time. Problem is not rSH having range kd, problem is his damage+survivability that's make it overtuned, and also mirroring order only abilities too has a long time of history.

Do you want a list of all destro abilities order doesn't have? how is this relevant to this topic which concerns sh and sh only?

Come down from your salt mine dude, stop makign fun of yourself.

It's SH thread so how is shatter limbs and pounce not relevant?
Anyway my point is that order is too spoiled. Still have upper hand on most classes, yet they demand to win solo queued the city with engi squad and dps AMs.

What??? both pounce and shatter are mirrored so i don't get it..........btw shatter limbs does not work correctly in st (if there is not enough targets so for example in 6v6) those days ..we tested that lately.

And hmm we are talking about sh and you about eng, dps am.. all the same ****. Do you lacking valid points and good ideas. Some ppl in this thread were trying to defend sh status much much better just by using good analyse and arguments. Can you be more creative..just saying.

Jinxypie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:57 pm

Sundowner wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:52 pm

Jinxypie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:50 pm

It's SH thread so how is shatter limbs and pounce not relevant?
Anyway my point is that order is too spoiled. Still have upper hand on most classes, yet they demand to win solo queued the city with engi squad and dps AMs.

Again, sitting on your salt mountain and spewing biased opinions of no relevancy, keep being a joke.

Also, I said that writing down all bad things order said to you and things that are mirrored long time ago are not relevant to current disucssion, not specifically shatter limbs. stop cherry picking.

Also, what are most classes that order has upper hand in? mind to list?

Not going to fuel this nonsense any more, so this is my last post in this topic. I am playing booth realms, currently enjoying order toons for quite some time almost exclusively with no complains. So what biffles me is the order snowflake attitude. That's it.
Peace

good, less biased and irrelevant comments.

How can you even take screenshots of damage as a reliable source to determine viability? If you really want to make an honest comparison you have to take RR and the gear of your opponent into account. But as some people already said, too many people have an agenda.

Draugris wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:29 pm How can you even take screenshots of damage as a reliable source to determine viability? If you really want to make an honest comparison you have to take RR and the gear of your opponent into account. But as some people already said, too many people have an agenda.

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Jinxypie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:55 am
Also from what we have been told for years when WLs globaled everything but tanks. Just kill the pet. So just kill the pet.
Funny how shatter limbs get mirrored and then needs to be nerfed cuz "I can't cast mah spells". Same with pounce. 45ft now. Was fine as order only huh? And now you guys discovered how is it to play against ranged KD. Welcome to earth Order.

WL never "globaled" anything except people wearing paper who don't realize that Pounce only takes you to where your target was. The pet originally had 3000 HP and died in two ticks of POS.

And there's a big difference between a ranged pet that can be leashed for invulnerability and one that has to run through a meat grinder. That said, it wasn't the point.

Squig can have RKD as along as it loses about 50-75% of the rest of its CC it has over SW, and Destro loses its AOE KDs, but you wouldn't want that "welcome to earth" would you?

And Squig had Bad Gas since the beginning of the game. 30 foot AOE off the pet. It was changed by Mythic to work off the Battle Squig iirc, and then that was changed to Indigestion.

Back then BW had it on Boiling Blood and could cast it from range, but that was converted into a WOP copy.

RSH is a bit overturned. It's nice to see SH actually using bows instead of all meele since it really is a ranged archetype at it's core. I agree though... Too many tools paired with too much damage at the moment. But hey WL was broken for a long time imo so I kind of accept this for a short term thing.