Return of Reckoning

Luth wrote: You realise that on max. combustion the healdebuff would be only 25% higher then the standard 50% healdebuff you get from the meleetrain?

Those 25% would increase the healdebuff effect by 100%.

They maybe should have do the same with the sorc. You know, like releasing all the DM/combu power in the aoe skills =)
BtW the skills who release all rage are the biggest dps for slayer/choppa am I right ?

Sulorie wrote:

Luth wrote: You realise that on max. combustion the healdebuff would be only 25% higher then the standard 50% healdebuff you get from the meleetrain?

Those 25% would increase the healdebuff effect by 100%.

Yay, welcome to Moral 4 Inquisition spec of WH =D

Also almost every utility ability (e.g. knockdown) forces you to drop rage.

Novgoroth wrote:They maybe should have do the same with the sorc. You know, like releasing all the DM/combu power in the aoe skills =)
BtW the skills who release all rage are the biggest dps for slayer/choppa am I right ?

The mechanic release skill for bw/sorc is also the biggest dps. Thing is they never use it as its better to stay at high crit. Its also ap free whereas slayer exhaustion skills cost.

Luth wrote:Also almost every utility ability (e.g. knockdown) forces you to drop rage.

But you have to add, you need no target to drop rage, while a Sorc/BW needs a target and has cast time. A lot skills have to be changed to make this idea remotely working.

EDIT: On the other hand you could easily shutdown a sorc/bw by hitting them. They can't rise darkmagic/combustion because of an increasing healdebuff, while they deal minor damage without their mechanic - their base damage is just crap.

I really hope this game is not based on a personal opinion of one dev, and won't change an important thing like this "healdebuff" only with a personal opinion

Luth wrote:You realise that on max. combustion the healdebuff would be only 25% higher then the standard 50% healdebuff you get from the meleetrain?

"Only" ? Are you kidding ? 25% is much, it's 1/4 of the heal, it can change everything ...

I really agree with Navgoroth concerning the WH/WE who pops on the Sorc/BW. First, Sorc/BW already die so easily, and you wanna give them a 50% heal debuff ? Second, they don't really have CC skills which ables them to flee or run. Third, the BW/Sorc sequence is made to kill a person, to put off her whole life but not much more. You should all know that if you detaunt a sorc or BW, he can't kill you cause you will lose 50-60% of your wounds. It's not the same with slayer or mara for example.
BW/Sorc hurt, but they are enough squishy, they don't need 50% heal debuff.

Sulorie wrote:

Luth wrote:Also almost every utility ability (e.g. knockdown) forces you to drop rage.

But you have to add, you need no target to drop rage, while a Sorc/BW needs a target and has cast time. A lot skills have to be changed to make this idea remotely working.

EDIT: On the other hand you could easily shutdown a sorc/bw by hitting them. They can't rise darkmagic/combustion because of an increasing healdebuff, while they deal minor damage without their mechanic - their base damage is just crap.

As i wrote, they can use scorched earth to drop 1/5 combustion. As the healdebuff would scale with combustion level (lets say only 25% on 50 combustion), maybe scorched earth should be altered to use 25 combustion instead on 20.

Also it's far easier to use a 100 feet meltdown on a target, then a 5 feet rage drop skill from the slayer/choppa (if there wouldn't be wild swing).

Edit: Maybe it would be also good to make meltdown an instant cast and lower it's damage somewhat.

With 50 combustion, you're not efficient, and you have 25% heal debuff ? Sorry but that's crazy ...

Another thing i forgot to mention as a bug: Dhar Wind crits on hit, and it shouldn't. It's a standard and fix damage.

Luth wrote:As i wrote, they can use scorched earth to drop 1/5 combustion. As the healdebuff would scale with combustion level (lets say only 25% on 50 combustion), maybe scorched earth should be altered to use 25 combustion instead on 20.

Also it's far easier to use a 100 feet meltdown on a target, then a 5 feet rage drop skill from the slayer/choppa (if there wouldn't be wild swing).

Edit: Maybe it would be also good to make meltdown an instant cast and lower it's damage somewhat.

Create a new class and call it "Useless" ...